1 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:19,540 [Music] 2 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:24,480 you're in the paracast 3 00:00:29,349 --> 00:00:28,000 the gold standard of paranormal radio 4 00:00:34,069 --> 00:00:29,359 and now 5 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:35,750 with gina and chris 6 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:37,760 on the power cast we're going to a 7 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:38,960 little bit later 8 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,399 focus on 9 00:00:45,030 --> 00:00:42,719 skinwalker and the skinwalker mysteries 10 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:45,040 again with ryan skinner we'll get to 11 00:00:48,709 --> 00:00:47,200 that in a few moments i'm just wondering 12 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:48,719 about something here 13 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:51,520 why is it i always ask this question and 14 00:00:54,790 --> 00:00:53,840 we did it in the last few weeks 15 00:00:58,389 --> 00:00:54,800 after 16 00:01:01,029 --> 00:00:58,399 the expose of the roswell slides why is 17 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:01,039 it one of the most popular subjects 18 00:01:07,350 --> 00:01:02,640 in our forums 19 00:01:10,390 --> 00:01:09,030 i don't know it's kind of like you know 20 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:10,400 slowing down 21 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:12,400 past the car wreck you know 22 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:13,920 gotta rub her neck 23 00:01:19,109 --> 00:01:16,159 talk about it just i don't know it's 24 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:19,119 morbid uh curiosity i guess 25 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:22,240 talking about morbid curiosity so 26 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:24,479 linda molten howe apparently 27 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:26,799 got her claws into this thing and she 28 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:28,479 and i think whitley streeper is doing it 29 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:31,520 too now suggesting that the mummy was 30 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:35,119 deliberately placed in that museum 31 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:36,799 where it was photographed 32 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:38,640 am i getting this right 33 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:39,920 well in other words you're saying that 34 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:42,079 the mummy was an alien that was put in 35 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:44,000 there and uh 36 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:47,680 shown as just a another mummy of a child 37 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:48,960 exactly 38 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:51,280 so for whatever crazy reason 39 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:53,759 our government having nothing better to 40 00:01:58,149 --> 00:01:55,439 do with their time 41 00:01:59,910 --> 00:01:58,159 and we know look we have secret service 42 00:02:02,789 --> 00:01:59,920 people who took out prostitutes and 43 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:02,799 things like that so i suppose that they 44 00:02:07,830 --> 00:02:04,560 take our hard-earned money 45 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:07,840 and they justify reasons to cut back on 46 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:10,239 expenses which means they do a worse job 47 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,440 because they don't have enough money to 48 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:13,520 do a good job but anyway let's get back 49 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:15,840 to this point here so all is not equal 50 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:17,920 in love and i mean war 51 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:22,000 something like that but the key is here 52 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:24,720 is the logic to 53 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:26,080 use the 54 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,720 phrase attributed to mr spock or dr 55 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:30,560 mccoy or something 56 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:31,680 using the 57 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:33,280 term loosely 58 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:36,640 very loosely where's the logic in that 59 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:39,040 where's the logic in the government 60 00:02:42,869 --> 00:02:41,599 having a body of an alien 61 00:02:44,309 --> 00:02:42,879 and rather than just keep it hidden 62 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:44,319 which would make sense 63 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:45,680 you don't want people to know about that 64 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:48,160 right so instead of that 65 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:50,879 you stick it on a museum table 66 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:53,040 in some obscure museum right and hide it 67 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:55,360 in plain sight 68 00:03:01,509 --> 00:02:57,040 okay 69 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:03,430 well perhaps 70 00:03:07,990 --> 00:03:06,400 linda feels left out and 71 00:03:09,110 --> 00:03:08,000 she had to get her light as you put it 72 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:09,120 her uh 73 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:11,519 her finger in the pie or her your foot 74 00:03:16,149 --> 00:03:12,959 in the mud or whatever you want to call 75 00:03:17,589 --> 00:03:16,159 it uh get her two cents in 76 00:03:19,830 --> 00:03:17,599 you know sure 77 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:19,840 anything i'm i'm i'm open-minded 78 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:22,560 anything is possible however 79 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:24,400 the likelihood of something like that 80 00:03:28,550 --> 00:03:25,519 happening 81 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:28,560 is is so remote uh at least in my book i 82 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:29,920 mean the government's about hiding 83 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:32,159 things and controlling information 84 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:33,920 they're not about trotting it out and 85 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:36,159 seeing if anybody notices 86 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:37,519 i don't 87 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:41,360 being a possibility although i could be 88 00:03:45,030 --> 00:03:42,879 wrong 89 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:45,040 we don't have the money to 90 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:46,959 confirm one way or another 91 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:49,440 through dna tests and other types of 92 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:52,480 tests to determine whether it's 93 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:54,480 just a little indian you know native 94 00:03:58,470 --> 00:03:56,640 american human baby that died an 95 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,480 unfortunate early death 96 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:00,400 or whether it's truly an off-planet 97 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:02,319 intelligence that uh 98 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:05,280 somehow became desiccated and 99 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:06,640 ended up in a 100 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,439 on a glass shelf in a museum i it's just 101 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:11,680 i don't know i i guess 102 00:04:14,949 --> 00:04:13,519 i guess when you get caught red-handed 103 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:14,959 sometimes you come up with the most 104 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:17,519 outlandish uh counter arguments and 105 00:04:20,629 --> 00:04:19,600 explanations to try to wiggle your way 106 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:20,639 out of 107 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:24,639 millions and millions of dollars so i 108 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:25,600 you know 109 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:27,199 i wonder how much linda's getting paid 110 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:30,400 to help sign off on this particular 111 00:04:34,469 --> 00:04:32,320 scenario well i 112 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:34,479 would like to say we're not accusing her 113 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:36,320 of anything maybe she's just glomming 114 00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:38,240 onto this feeling there's some 115 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:40,160 connection or some traction to create a 116 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:41,919 conspiracy theory i don't think she'd 117 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:43,840 glom onto something like that unless uh 118 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:45,840 there was there was something in it for 119 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:46,800 her 120 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:48,080 all right well 121 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:50,400 i don't know i don't know linda molten 122 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:52,160 how we've asked her to come on the show 123 00:04:57,110 --> 00:04:54,560 on several occasions a couple of times 124 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:57,120 she said yes and then doesn't seem to be 125 00:05:01,590 --> 00:04:59,120 able to close the deal the other thing 126 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:01,600 about this that always bothered me is if 127 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:03,280 you stick this thing 128 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:05,520 in some kind of public setting 129 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:07,520 how do you account for the fact that 130 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:09,199 there's always the danger that some kind 131 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:12,080 of alien life form would bring with it 132 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:14,639 alien viruses i'm not talking about 133 00:05:19,510 --> 00:05:16,800 computer viruses i mean 134 00:05:21,590 --> 00:05:19,520 alien viruses infections certainly if 135 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:21,600 you recovered a body like this 136 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:23,199 the first thing you would do is put on 137 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:26,880 protective gear put it in a place that's 138 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:28,560 safe secure 139 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:30,160 you'd hide it away until you're a 140 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:32,400 hundred percent sure or as sure as you 141 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:33,440 can be 142 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:36,000 that nobody is being infected 143 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:37,440 by something 144 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:38,880 remember what happened with their first 145 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:40,400 lunar astronauts when they came back 146 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:43,120 they went directly into quarantine 147 00:05:46,629 --> 00:05:44,800 that's right and that's 148 00:05:47,909 --> 00:05:46,639 our own people 149 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:47,919 going to 150 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:49,840 our own satellite the moon but we don't 151 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,680 know what's over there 152 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:53,520 it may be that 153 00:05:58,070 --> 00:05:56,160 et is related to us in some way 154 00:06:00,150 --> 00:05:58,080 and maybe therefore their viruses are 155 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:00,160 compatible with ours we don't know we 156 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:01,840 don't know if they disinfect themselves 157 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:05,520 before they come we have no idea so why 158 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:07,520 would we take the chance why would we 159 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:10,240 leave these things out in the open 160 00:06:14,309 --> 00:06:12,479 it doesn't make sense to me 161 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:14,319 i mean just think of the scene in the 162 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:16,160 movie e.t 163 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:18,639 where they find evidence that this kid 164 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:21,120 has a little alien being you see all 165 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:22,000 these 166 00:06:25,590 --> 00:06:23,520 scientists coming there with their 167 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:25,600 hazmat suits 168 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:28,000 well that's hollywood but there's a 169 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:30,400 reality to that you know 170 00:06:33,990 --> 00:06:31,919 well especially if it's true you know 171 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:34,000 you read some of the scuttlebutt the 172 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:35,440 people 173 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:36,639 i don't know where they could come up 174 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:38,639 with most of this stuff but people claim 175 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:39,759 that these 176 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:41,759 little grays uh 177 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:44,000 you know don't eliminate bodily waste 178 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:46,639 the way we do they secrete them from 179 00:06:50,950 --> 00:06:49,039 secreted from their skin like sweat 180 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:50,960 if that's the case i'd be 181 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:52,560 i wouldn't want to shake hands with one 182 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:55,280 it's like you know you need a full body 183 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:57,199 wipe down before you 184 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:58,720 you start getting all friendly with 185 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:59,680 people 186 00:07:03,749 --> 00:07:01,039 well i wouldn't want to touch them 187 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:03,759 anyway not because of the way in which 188 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:07,360 they secrete waste products it is again 189 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:10,400 the alien viruses i'm not a clean nut 190 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,840 you understand 191 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:13,599 but i'd like to be clean 192 00:07:17,589 --> 00:07:15,199 i just think that 193 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:17,599 the very basis of this 194 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:20,720 makes no sense whatever i don't know if 195 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:21,599 there 196 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:24,400 is any way that people who paid for the 197 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:27,440 tickets or got the online video 198 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:29,440 can actually sue 199 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:31,120 and claim fraud 200 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:32,880 i think at the end of the day they could 201 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,759 always say this is entertainment 202 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:37,440 you know i haven't seen the terms and 203 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:38,639 conditions 204 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:41,680 of the offer maybe buried in there is 205 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:44,080 some language that the lawyers set up 206 00:07:48,150 --> 00:07:46,400 designed to relieve them 207 00:07:50,469 --> 00:07:48,160 of any possible 208 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:50,479 liability it might be in there i don't 209 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:52,560 know if anybody has actually looked it 210 00:07:55,589 --> 00:07:53,840 certainly would be in the spanish 211 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:55,599 language so i suppose i could submit it 212 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:58,000 to my son who has got advanced degrees 213 00:08:01,830 --> 00:08:00,160 in spanish and let him look at it if 214 00:08:03,909 --> 00:08:01,840 it's available and see what the terms 215 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:03,919 and conditions are 216 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:05,599 of course the american pay-per-view 217 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:07,120 that's another thing 218 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:10,000 i think just not getting good reception 219 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:10,960 getting 220 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:13,680 buffering problems or loss of signal 221 00:08:16,869 --> 00:08:15,520 that is sufficient 222 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:16,879 to 223 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:17,919 say 224 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:19,440 i'm not paying 225 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:21,199 i want to charge back 226 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:23,199 i'm not doing it well do we have any 227 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:25,440 firm numbers from the actual attendance 228 00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:28,560 to the live event and uh the streaming 229 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:31,280 numbers do we have any uh solid numbers 230 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:34,240 red pill junkies said between 6 500 and 231 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:36,800 7 000 at the live event 232 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:38,800 i've heard figures all over the place 233 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:40,560 for the pay-per-view i don't think 234 00:08:45,990 --> 00:08:42,959 anyone outside the organization that ran 235 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:46,000 it or jaime moussano or those people 236 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:48,320 knows the real number 237 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:49,839 do we have a name of the company that 238 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:52,399 actually did the streaming event 239 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:53,839 i'm sure we could look it up i haven't 240 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:55,200 bothered yeah well that's something that 241 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:56,880 we could put out there for our listeners 242 00:09:01,110 --> 00:08:58,959 especially anybody down in i.t down in 243 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:01,120 mexico if you could do a little digging 244 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:02,399 for us we'd love to get the name of the 245 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:03,519 company 246 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:06,000 that provided the cameras and provided 247 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:07,200 the switcher 248 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:09,920 and the the conversion for the live 249 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:12,720 streaming event and uh perhaps we could 250 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:14,640 we could locate somebody that could uh 251 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:17,839 firm up some of our numbers 252 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:19,680 yes indeed 253 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:21,920 our guest this week is ryan skinner 254 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:23,440 who's written two more books about 255 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:25,040 skinwalker called tales of the 256 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:27,839 skinwalker a collection of stories from 257 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:31,279 skinwalker ranch and beyond 258 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:33,200 that's in first book 259 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:34,720 the other one is called 260 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:36,399 skinwalker ranch 261 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:39,279 the ufo farm 262 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:40,880 okay so i guess they're growing little 263 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:43,120 ufo beings they're growing little et's 264 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:45,760 to go into museum cases yeah i'm joking 265 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:47,920 here ryan skinner is always a fun guy to 266 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:50,080 talk to and we'll hear from him next 267 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:52,560 with gene and with chris you're in the 268 00:10:02,310 --> 00:10:00,150 hi my name is scott fuchs teacher and 269 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:02,320 rowing coach for over 14 years i was 270 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:04,399 sluggish overweight on prescription 271 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:06,880 drugs and only 30-something fortunately 272 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:09,200 i was referred to dr z and happy to say 273 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:11,680 dr z's all-natural protocols over a 274 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:13,519 consistent course resolved my health 275 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:15,519 issues i'm in the best shape of my life 276 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:18,079 and most importantly on zero medications 277 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:21,360 i'm dr stanowski author of evology 278 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:23,360 trained as a primary care physician 279 00:10:27,990 --> 00:10:25,680 surgical manipulation under anesthesia 280 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:28,000 expert in nutrition diet weight loss 281 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:29,760 immune system and i specialize in 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00:11:09,680 billion a week are you tired of stock 297 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:11,200 brokers gambling away your hard-earned 298 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:13,600 money is this market a setup for a crash 299 00:11:18,069 --> 00:11:16,320 greater than 1987 too many of today's 300 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:18,079 policies resemble those that led to the 301 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:20,880 collapse of 1929 302 00:11:25,190 --> 00:11:22,560 this is john humner and that was me in 303 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:25,200 2007 and we all know what happened when 304 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:27,120 the subprime credit bubble burst by 305 00:11:31,829 --> 00:11:29,680 march 2009 the dollar lost 50 percent of 306 00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:31,839 its value the entire u.s banking system 307 00:11:35,509 --> 00:11:33,839 was on the verge of collapsing like all 308 00:11:37,670 --> 00:11:35,519 financial problems of the past is 309 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:37,680 history about to repeat itself call me 310 00:11:44,550 --> 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00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:49,120 between work and the books and 413 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:50,800 everything else going on and father of 414 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,160 two children 415 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:54,240 so no not much of a life but it's life i 416 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:55,680 enjoy 417 00:16:01,030 --> 00:15:58,480 okay let's look at the two books and 418 00:16:01,749 --> 00:16:01,040 maybe discuss here what you're focusing 419 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:01,759 on 420 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:11,040 now before i ask you about the stories 421 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:12,880 and how you collected them what do you 422 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:14,560 mean by beyond 423 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:16,399 and by beyond 424 00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:18,720 it is somewhat limiting just focusing on 425 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:21,279 skinwalker ranch i found i had a larger 426 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:22,880 pool of stories to collect from when i 427 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:24,720 started focusing on the four corners 428 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:25,759 area 429 00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:28,000 that's what beyond is referring to 430 00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:30,480 all right why are we so interested in 431 00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:32,240 skinwalker ranch because this is 432 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,360 something that we've discussed in the 433 00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:35,519 power cast a number of times 434 00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:38,079 and if the subject never dies people 435 00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:39,839 respond to it from different vantage 436 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:41,600 points either being knowledgeable about 437 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:43,680 what's going on or 438 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:46,959 just curious about something strange 439 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:48,560 so let's go back to the beginning for 440 00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:50,320 those who haven't heard your previous 441 00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:52,399 appearances on the power cast 442 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,639 how did you become involved with the 443 00:16:58,710 --> 00:16:56,480 things that are going on at skin walk i 444 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:58,720 guess it all comes back to an incident 445 00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:01,839 uh and this is was all quite unexpected 446 00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:03,279 i uh 447 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:05,520 i'd been driving through utah with my 448 00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:09,439 wife i think it was around 2006 2007 and 449 00:17:12,549 --> 00:17:11,120 we were going to vegas actually to get 450 00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:12,559 married we just happened to be going 451 00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:13,839 through uh 452 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,319 the southern part of utah and i-70 453 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:18,480 and yeah what i can only describe as a 454 00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:20,160 close encounter with 455 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:22,880 what is either a skimwalker a 456 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,600 an alien i mean an unknown 457 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:27,360 an unknown intelligence i guess is the 458 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:28,960 only way i can describe it which really 459 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:32,160 altered my my course in life and uh 460 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:34,320 fueled my interest in this topic 461 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:36,720 where the incident occurred was about 50 462 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:39,440 miles to the south as the crow flies 463 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:41,840 from skimwalker ranch and 464 00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:43,120 when i returned home and did some 465 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,080 research i kept coming across you know 466 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,640 what made this this this location so so 467 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:50,720 important i found out about the ranch 468 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:52,640 and colton kelleher and george knapp's 469 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,600 book on skinwalker ranch and uh 470 00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:57,520 i think i was just hooked at that point 471 00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,160 and and from there i just uh i really 472 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:01,919 wanted to learn more i've i've always 473 00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:03,440 been a little fascinated by the topic 474 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:05,200 and all things paranormal but but to 475 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,640 have such a close encounter it just 476 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:08,880 validated all of my 477 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:11,120 what i had always hoped uh to be true uh 478 00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:12,640 actually turned out to be 479 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:14,799 a far more mysterious uh 480 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:16,160 adventure than i ever could have 481 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:17,200 imagined 482 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:18,960 now the skeptic would say 483 00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:20,799 well if you were 484 00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:22,559 wishing and hoping something like this 485 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:24,799 would come to pass maybe that kind of 486 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,000 generated 487 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,720 perceptions of what happened to you yeah 488 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:31,039 absolutely i don't know i guess i would 489 00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,720 i'm at a point now i'd care whether 490 00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:33,919 people believe or don't believe it 491 00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:36,080 doesn't matter to me but uh what is 492 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:38,080 important is uh you do manifest your own 493 00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:39,280 reality 494 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:40,799 uh does that mean you can manifest 495 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:44,400 something false and i guess 496 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,240 create a delusion where you believe uh 497 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,400 something to be not true to be true 498 00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:50,480 uh perhaps i guess someone could but i 499 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:52,720 do know one thing for sure is if you 500 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:54,480 don't go out and seek these sort of 501 00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:56,640 things you know usually they will not 502 00:19:01,830 --> 00:18:59,520 find you and i really walked uh 503 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:01,840 a lonely and difficult path in in doing 504 00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:04,240 my research over the years to validate 505 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:06,080 what i just because you have hopes that 506 00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:08,160 something's real i'm you know i doesn't 507 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:10,640 necessarily mean that that i had any 508 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:12,640 proof that anybody existed and that 509 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:14,880 experience to me at that time convinced 510 00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,480 me i was onto something and i finally 511 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,799 had found a hot spot that i could uh 512 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:20,400 sink my teeth into 513 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:22,960 so what kind of reality check do you 514 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:25,679 assign yourself here if you're trying to 515 00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:28,080 avoid the self-fulfilling prophecy true 516 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:30,000 true it is a self-fulfilling prophecy in 517 00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:30,880 a way 518 00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:32,559 the reality check is what's interesting 519 00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:34,240 is when i bring people out to skinwalker 520 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:35,679 ranch um 521 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:38,080 a lot of the time they're uh either 522 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:39,679 believe you seem to fall in one camp or 523 00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:41,120 the other you're either a believer or a 524 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,679 skeptic and uh both of them however seem 525 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:45,360 to jump at the smallest 526 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,440 noise in the night or light in the sky 527 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,960 oh that light in the sky it's got to be 528 00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:50,320 a ufo 529 00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,919 and i i actually turn out to be the 530 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:53,679 biggest skeptic i know exactly what i'm 531 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,200 looking for and what i'm looking for is 532 00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:58,240 something that can't be explained by any 533 00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:00,640 rational means and it's very rare when 534 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:02,080 that event happens 535 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:03,840 in other words light in the sky is 536 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,520 really just that a light in the sky 537 00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:07,440 suddenly a light on the ground 538 00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:09,039 materializing in front of you and 539 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:10,559 something coming out of that light you 540 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,960 know that falls more in the unexplained 541 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:14,240 category 542 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:16,559 and that holds my intrigue a lot more so 543 00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,960 i i guess kind of reminds me of the the 544 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,960 jesse ventura shoot when we were up 545 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:22,480 there with uh 546 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:25,840 with um sean stone and uh 547 00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,200 ty ventura and uh we had the light show 548 00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:31,039 up in an area that 549 00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:32,400 there were no apparent roads or 550 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:34,559 driveways or anything but this light 551 00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:36,320 those guys were just i mean they they 552 00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,200 thought 553 00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:39,440 this was the second coming of the ufo 554 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:41,360 gods or something um 555 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:42,960 and and i remember you and i are looking 556 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:44,960 going yeah it's a light you know what's 557 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,960 the big deal oh yep yeah i remember 558 00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:48,880 being here a little bit 559 00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:51,200 i remember being out there and tyrell or 560 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:53,039 sean or both of them you know they were 561 00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,880 looking at passing uh airplanes in the 562 00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:57,039 sky and oh ryan i think we got a ufo and 563 00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:58,400 i don't think they were testing me i 564 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,640 think they were jumping at the slightest 565 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:02,400 bump in the night yeah 566 00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:04,000 yeah even though you're gonna come on on 567 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:05,840 the ground and and 568 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,000 you know in the restaurant or uh 569 00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,640 away from the scene so to speak uh they 570 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:12,400 they tend to be a lot more circumspect 571 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,720 and and absolutely skeptical and 572 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:16,080 objective but as soon as you get out 573 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:19,039 there in the dark uh that tends to 574 00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,640 i think color your experience a little 575 00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,320 bit and and you know being someone 576 00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:23,679 that's been up there as many times as 577 00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:26,159 you as you have 578 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:28,159 if you had jumped up and down and acted 579 00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:30,000 all excited i would not have taken your 580 00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,149 simply because i i've been in this 581 00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:38,880 situation myself so many times where 582 00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:40,880 sure it was an anomalous light 583 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:43,919 um it didn't appear to be doing anything 584 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:46,320 particularly spectacular but uh you know 585 00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:47,520 and it was in an area where there 586 00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:48,799 shouldn't have been any lights and it 587 00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,919 was acting in an unusual manner but but 588 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,840 again it was just a light in the sky i 589 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:55,280 mean you know low to the ground but a 590 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,400 light in the sky 591 00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,559 essentially and you know if you if you 592 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:00,799 put a if you put a big 593 00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:03,520 uh exclamation point uh behind any of 594 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:05,679 those types of experiences that you have 595 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:08,159 um no one would take you seriously 596 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,679 because that would really take the 597 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,760 gravitas away from the important events 598 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,760 uh that you've described in in your 599 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:15,600 books and and the events that others 600 00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:18,000 have described that well i think 601 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,159 it bears some you know 602 00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,840 some scrutiny and i and i think that 603 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,600 there is something going on up there 604 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:25,360 that's why we we've had you on the show 605 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:27,760 why i've been so interested in the case 606 00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,159 and those initial experiences that draw 607 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,039 us to a particular case or to a location 608 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:35,919 i think are very very important and have 609 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,480 a lot of deeper meanings more deeper 610 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:40,799 meanings with gene chris and ryan 611 00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:52,590 america's largest independently owned 612 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,270 is there a secret ufo agenda do strange 613 00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:05,360 creatures from the darkest corners of 614 00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:07,840 the mind roam the earth is there 615 00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:11,039 evidence for mind control time travel or 616 00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:13,679 devious government conspiracies 617 00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:15,760 find out the inside scoop on the latest 618 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we take a selected sample and the 720 00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,080 ones we use maybe we give them 721 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:48,000 a little gift of something or other i 722 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,760 like that idea 723 00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,080 isn't that nice yeah that's a good one 724 00:27:56,510 --> 00:27:54,000 we should get a thread going 725 00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,520 okay we'll set up a form thread at 726 00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,320 form.thepowercast.com to explain this 727 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,320 where we will run 728 00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,399 listener stingers 729 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,679 on the show 730 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,440 and give you credit for it 731 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,360 and give you a prize of some sort we'll 732 00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:09,600 work out the prize stuff later right now 733 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,559 we have 734 00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,399 ryan skinner joining gene and chris 735 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,080 we're talking about the mysteries of 736 00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,559 skinwalker now we should point out very 737 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,080 carefully here that when you go to the 738 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,480 ranch you're not going on the property 739 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:22,320 it's private property and you're not 740 00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,320 allowed so officially you can't get in 741 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:25,679 there right 742 00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:27,200 yeah that's correct 743 00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:28,720 bigelow's got a 744 00:28:33,549 --> 00:28:31,679 of course it's monitored 24 7 by what 745 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:33,559 used to be a team of 746 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,200 ex-paramilitary uh guards from that that 747 00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,840 drive up from nevada from compound 748 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,679 nevada that watch the property nobody's 749 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,360 allowed on the property 750 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,799 you will be arrested if you're on the 751 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:46,960 property there's still still some places 752 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,520 around there to get a good advantage or 753 00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,000 experience something paranormal from and 754 00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:54,320 and the phenomena is not just by any 755 00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:57,039 means located on skinwalker ranch 756 00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:59,600 despite that having a catchy name and 757 00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:01,039 a good slogan 758 00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:03,039 it's it's the entire basin it's pretty 759 00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,000 hot 760 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:05,919 now you can't officially ever say you 761 00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,760 trespassed right 762 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:09,120 i don't know you know i've kind of 763 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,799 danced around that issue for long enough 764 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:13,200 especially on this radio show for quite 765 00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,240 some time 766 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,399 i don't think there's any uh 767 00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:18,960 confusion on that topic yeah i've i've 768 00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,600 been over the fence before 769 00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:23,279 um 770 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:24,880 i have 771 00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,360 and i again don't recommend that 772 00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,080 experience to anyone else out there for 773 00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:31,919 for a lot of different reasons 774 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:33,440 now when you say they have security 775 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:35,200 guards there isn't anything like the 776 00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,640 security guards you see in the movies 777 00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:41,120 you know these big brawny people who 778 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,320 have 779 00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:44,159 nondescript accents from different 780 00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:45,919 countries and you don't know what 781 00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:47,279 military they work for they're 782 00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,200 mercenaries 783 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,200 i don't want to create an illusionary 784 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,799 perspective of 785 00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,480 of their attire and who they are i mean 786 00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:56,399 they're people just like you and me and 787 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:58,159 i'm actually friends with some some of 788 00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:59,440 them oddly 789 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,080 but uh they do uh they do all hold a 790 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,080 top-secret clearance they come from a 791 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:06,399 wide variety of backgrounds 792 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:07,600 mostly 793 00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:11,760 the top secret clearance from the air 794 00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:13,039 force 795 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,080 um a lot of them had guarded uh nuclear 796 00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,640 silos or had some job of 797 00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,320 high responsibility 798 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,559 and and uh the other ones come from a 799 00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,279 mill or i'm sorry a police background 800 00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,840 either uh law enforcement from the 801 00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:29,760 sheriff's office or 802 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,480 uh 803 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,320 holding in detective positions a lot of 804 00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:34,080 the a lot of the actual researchers 805 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,919 there's two different uh types of people 806 00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:37,360 out there there's the the guards and 807 00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:39,120 then the researchers which are different 808 00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,200 divisions that bass 809 00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,120 uh brings to play out there i don't know 810 00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,640 they're they're all pretty much in shape 811 00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,559 and and uh i'm not sure all of them 812 00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:48,240 necessarily are big believers in the 813 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:50,080 paranormal so they're they're looking 814 00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:52,240 for some action out there and i really 815 00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:55,039 don't want to be the target for them 816 00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:57,520 most of the time it's uh 99 of the time 817 00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,399 i'm sure it is just a tedium and boredom 818 00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:02,159 and boy somebody popping over the fence 819 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:04,799 would you know make their month 820 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:08,000 exactly that's exactly correct 821 00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,200 so that's the first excitement that 822 00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:10,960 they've had in a while you bet 823 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,520 the caveat again is uh don't 824 00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:15,840 you know don't try to be a hero and get 825 00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,799 on the ranch and expect to uh have some 826 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,480 sort of life-altering paranormal 827 00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,240 experience because you might have a 828 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,320 life-altering uh you know knee in your 829 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:26,720 back facing the dirt cuffs on 830 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:29,760 uh you know hustled off in an suv to the 831 00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,640 local sheriff's office so so you know 832 00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:34,000 really 833 00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:35,360 play it smart 834 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:36,960 and i think brian you brought up a very 835 00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:40,480 important point there is a history of 836 00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:43,600 unexplained unusual um 837 00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,919 fairly amazing uh activity from the 838 00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:48,000 whole area there it doesn't matter where 839 00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:50,000 you go in the uintah basin 840 00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:53,120 uh that area is rife with with examples 841 00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,120 of all kinds of different sort of 842 00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:56,960 so-called paranormal events that go all 843 00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:59,440 the way back into the 50s and probably 844 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,559 earlier 845 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,120 a good book to read before anyone goes 846 00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,000 out there would be the great ufo utah 847 00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:08,399 ufo display by frank salisbury and 848 00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:09,840 junior hicks 849 00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,679 you need to do your research get up to 850 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,760 speed there's plenty of areas around 851 00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,440 vernal around the southern parts of the 852 00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:17,760 winter mountains public land 853 00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,600 areas south in bonanza there into the uh 854 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,279 gas and oil fields 855 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,440 areas north of sago canyon off highway 856 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,039 70 into the very southern part of the 857 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,200 youth indian reservation 858 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:31,360 it is an indian reservation you do need 859 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:33,760 to uh go through proper protocols to do 860 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,720 camping 861 00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:36,960 and uh you know long stays out there so 862 00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:38,880 you have to you know contact tribal 863 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:40,960 authorities and have some good other 864 00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,480 activity to uh 865 00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,760 to be doing 866 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:45,120 if you tell them you're going out there 867 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:46,960 ufo hunting or trying to find 868 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,200 skinwalkers chances are you're not going 869 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:51,120 to get very far with uh you know the 870 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,000 local 871 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,640 native authorities so have some other 872 00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:56,480 you know thing that you are doing out 873 00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:57,360 there 874 00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:59,919 alongside your other more exotic 875 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:01,919 pursuits shall we say 876 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,960 pretend that you're just a tourist 877 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:07,120 you're looking for a rare uh purple 878 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:14,070 whatever it might be just make sure that 879 00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:15,760 it doesn't include anything that might 880 00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,320 get a a negative reaction from uh tribal 881 00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,080 authorities this is an indian 882 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,159 reservation you're you're in a sovereign 883 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:24,880 nation don't forget that the skinwalker 884 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,679 ranch so-called the uh the sherman ranch 885 00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:29,360 or the bigelow ranch now 886 00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,240 uh is private property it is not part of 887 00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,559 the indian reservation it is uh 888 00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:37,279 surrounded by indian reservation as as 889 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,720 is all the private property that's 890 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:40,320 located in that particular little valley 891 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:42,720 there south of fort du chain so be 892 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:43,760 careful 893 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,039 uh be safe be sanitary oh i don't want 894 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:48,960 to take that anywhere 895 00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:51,279 but the key is here don't drop the 896 00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:53,200 hamburger wrappers you know the stuff 897 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,799 that you get your 898 00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:56,240 burger kings in 899 00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:57,519 you don't want to do that you want to be 900 00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:59,120 filthy you have to show respect for the 901 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,159 property 902 00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:03,039 but here's the point we have i suppose 903 00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:04,720 some number of people 904 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,640 who decide that they want to see what's 905 00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,879 going on they're into the paranormal 906 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:10,879 ufos and maybe it's for kicks maybe it's 907 00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,200 for serious research i don't know what 908 00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:15,679 are the things that people tend to see 909 00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:17,839 that are mistaken for something unusual 910 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,599 is it the same stuff we see anywhere 911 00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:21,440 else light in the sky or something like 912 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:22,639 that 913 00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:25,679 again mostly uh airplanes 914 00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,000 lights in the sky i just immediately i 915 00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:30,159 have very little interest for any sort 916 00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:32,960 of story about lights in the sky 917 00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:35,679 other than a daytime light in the sky 918 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:38,079 i'm i'm again more interested in seeing 919 00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,440 lights in the ground right in front of 920 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:41,520 me than i am well structured craft are 921 00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:44,720 cool too in the daytime absolutely 922 00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:47,359 physical evidence in the environment 923 00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:50,079 um i've seen some incredible um 924 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:51,679 what appear to be 925 00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:54,320 like robot tracks that punched 18 inches 926 00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,839 into hardpan 927 00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,920 went across a mining road about 30 miles 928 00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:59,520 southeast of the ranch 929 00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,280 that there was just no way i could 930 00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,280 explain what the heck it was it went up 931 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:05,359 a probably a 30 932 00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:08,079 35 degree slope of loose 933 00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:11,359 loose um road fill and then stamped 934 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,400 across the road about four maybe four 935 00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,720 and a half feet between strides uh big 936 00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:18,000 circular 937 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:21,280 punches like some robot with uh 938 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,720 i don't know 939 00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,920 12 inch 940 00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,520 you know wide 941 00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,040 pads that have been punched into the 942 00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:29,520 ground with great force or weight 943 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,119 those are the types of things that that 944 00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,280 interest me physical evidence 945 00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:36,000 um swaths of trees mowed down for no 946 00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:37,680 apparent reason 947 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,920 i've seen south of the ranch there of 948 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:41,280 course this is an area where there's a 949 00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:42,160 lot of 950 00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,119 mining 951 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:46,160 um exploration for for gas and oil so 952 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,200 you always have to take into 953 00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,280 consideration uh possible 954 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,359 um you know development of these types 955 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,800 of resources but 956 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,320 for the most part you always have to 957 00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:56,400 have your eyes open for for anything 958 00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,720 that strikes you as unusual ryan's had 959 00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,560 some experiences that 960 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:02,160 go a little bit off the scale in that 961 00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:03,280 department 962 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,720 you know for some of our first time 963 00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:06,320 listeners uh to you ryan why don't you 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00:41:41,839 ranch it's about a quarter of a mile 1095 00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:44,319 away it's a great vantage point 1096 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,560 i had been there multiple times before 1097 00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:48,000 we were pretty lucky to get out there 1098 00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,680 early where the sun was just starting to 1099 00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:50,880 set 1100 00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,920 and on the fields and above the ranch 1101 00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:56,400 house we saw these glowing pulsating 1102 00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:59,440 balls of of light or 1103 00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,760 as i reflect on it now as 1104 00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:03,119 as the years have passed i think balls 1105 00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:07,119 of plasma is what i believe they were 1106 00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,640 and they were moving around they seemed 1107 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,560 intellectually controlled some of them 1108 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,040 would uh circle the house 1109 00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,599 others seemed to march down the fields 1110 00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,359 in groups 1111 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:19,200 as we were watching 1112 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:20,800 we were recording the entire event i 1113 00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,680 mean just i i felt finally validated 1114 00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,200 that all my research had been validated 1115 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:26,800 i finally had the proof i was looking 1116 00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,200 for i knew it would never be wouldn't be 1117 00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,040 enough but i thought it was 1118 00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,880 something tangible that could provide 1119 00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,200 the community with that would be debated 1120 00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:37,760 hotly for years to come 1121 00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,800 because 1122 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,640 it wasn't just a light in the dark this 1123 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:41,920 was this is during the day and things 1124 00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:44,000 were pretty damn clear 1125 00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:45,599 did you get a video of this by the way 1126 00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,359 i've never seen that 1127 00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:49,520 no no we did we didn't get video i mean 1128 00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:51,040 of course you know as as all the 1129 00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,560 skeptics would say 1130 00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,800 but uh two separate researchers myself 1131 00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:56,640 and another researcher both recording 1132 00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,920 two separate cameras uh later in the go 1133 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:01,599 over the incident here in a little bit 1134 00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,119 but as we checked our video cameras 1135 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,480 later in the night 1136 00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,960 it was not only erased it was as if 1137 00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:08,319 neither one of us had even hit the 1138 00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,319 record button on our on our cameras i 1139 00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,920 get to my theory as to 1140 00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,079 maybe why or how that had happened but 1141 00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:17,920 but it does play into uh there was 1142 00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:20,000 another incident on skinwalker ranch 1143 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,520 where they were 1144 00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:24,319 nids at that time had recording devices 1145 00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:25,680 set up 1146 00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,200 and as they were recording the fields 1147 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,200 they believe some sort of uh entity 1148 00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,200 ripped all the wires out of the out of 1149 00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,119 one of the cameras and 1150 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:34,720 the time it took for that to occur the 1151 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,960 damage to the camera and the vandalism 1152 00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,960 it was uh they said less than a second a 1153 00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:40,880 fraction of a second for it to all have 1154 00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:41,839 occurred 1155 00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:43,680 and for that to happen i mean literally 1156 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,960 not 1157 00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,480 almost this pole itself and all the 1158 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,240 wires had to be dismantled and it would 1159 00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:50,160 have taken somebody you know almost a 1160 00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:52,000 team of people several minutes to do 1161 00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,920 that sort of damage with tools and 1162 00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,760 everything else so 1163 00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,599 i'm not filming that camera that never 1164 00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:59,359 picks up right 1165 00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,640 right and that's how they had come to 1166 00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,160 that determination this had happened 1167 00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,839 between you know the 1168 00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,359 between the shutter 1169 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:07,359 between the frames of the camera it was 1170 00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,040 just unbelievable how it 1171 00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,359 how quickly this had happened um as if 1172 00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:13,599 time had stopped and something had 1173 00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,720 intervened 1174 00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:16,079 but uh 1175 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,839 as we were watching these balls of light 1176 00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,400 several of them branched off from the 1177 00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,319 group and actually started heading our 1178 00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:23,760 direction there was a there was a 1179 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:25,200 lighted pole behind the house and they 1180 00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,560 whizzed up to the top of the pole which 1181 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,400 had a transformer on it 1182 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,160 they did some sort of interaction with 1183 00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,400 the transformer i have no idea what and 1184 00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:34,240 it blew the blew up the power to the 1185 00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,599 ranch house suddenly all the lights at 1186 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,440 the ranch house went out i mean again it 1187 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,839 was starting to get dusk at this point 1188 00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,000 um at that point the guards flew out of 1189 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,920 the shed you know they obviously lost 1190 00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,760 power they have a guard shack right 1191 00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:47,839 right also on the ranch property next to 1192 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,599 the house so they 1193 00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:52,640 spilled out of the their guard house or 1194 00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,599 their little 1195 00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,800 i know it's like 1196 00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:56,480 whatever it is their shack 1197 00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,920 and uh went over and started playing 1198 00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,000 with the the fuse box trying to get the 1199 00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:02,079 power back on as he came out of the the 1200 00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,680 guard shack what always blows my mind to 1201 00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,200 this day is one of the balls of light 1202 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,359 was trap was trailing the guard i mean 1203 00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:09,440 literally five to ten feet right behind 1204 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,160 him 1205 00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:12,160 which uh at that time i couldn't tell 1206 00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,160 whether they're working with these balls 1207 00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,079 of light and this is some sort of 1208 00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,280 government conspiracy or if he really 1209 00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:21,359 couldn't see it and had no idea it was 1210 00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,000 there yet you know yet it was and from 1211 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:26,160 my vantage point uh i don't know if it's 1212 00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:28,240 a dimensional aspect or what i could see 1213 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,240 it they eventually got the power back to 1214 00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,560 the ranch house and as they did 1215 00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,000 again three of these balls of light 1216 00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:36,000 branched off started making their way 1217 00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,280 towards us 1218 00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,720 i like to capture and research 1219 00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:40,079 whatever's going on i don't want to be a 1220 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:41,359 part of 1221 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,640 didn't want to be 1222 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,400 some aliens uh 1223 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,400 experiment um unfortunately that was 1224 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,760 starting to happen as these things were 1225 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,280 getting closer and closer to us they 1226 00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:53,040 would uh they would power up get really 1227 00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,839 big 1228 00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:56,240 and then uh i described it like powering 1229 00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:57,839 down their intensity the light would 1230 00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:00,800 just power down to to nothing 1231 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,520 an infinitesimal point of light to to 1232 00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:05,040 winking out completely there was no 1233 00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:06,480 structure behind these things as they 1234 00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:09,920 got closer there was no metallic ball or 1235 00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:12,079 drone it was really just a ball of 1236 00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:15,119 plasma that would wink into and out of 1237 00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,880 existence eventually they were above our 1238 00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,839 heads 1239 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,599 and i knew that because suddenly they 1240 00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,040 they materialized above the heads they 1241 00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,680 powered up and flashed a really bright 1242 00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,920 light down on us and i 1243 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,599 again years later i theorized at that 1244 00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,960 time that's when 1245 00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:31,200 they had messed with our our video 1246 00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:33,040 equipment is my only my only guess as to 1247 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:34,560 what had happened 1248 00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,560 the lights then landed and uh 1249 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,560 um i'd like to pretend to be the brave 1250 00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,720 explorer but i mean i was really shaking 1251 00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,480 shaking in my boots to say the least i 1252 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,599 didn't want to be there anymore i didn't 1253 00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:48,079 want to be anywhere near the ranch 1254 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:49,440 because i knew something would be coming 1255 00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,359 and something did come 1256 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,200 i finally got the courage to peek over 1257 00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,200 the rock's edge and 1258 00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,440 from this glowing pulsating light uh 1259 00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,240 this black mist this uh 1260 00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,640 materialistic i mean when i say mist or 1261 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,800 smoke this is a mr smoke that had 1262 00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,800 substance to it it was darker than the 1263 00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,560 night sky it was now getting pretty dark 1264 00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,040 out then the night sky around us 1265 00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,520 um it was swirling around taking shapes 1266 00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,200 tendrils of it uh 1267 00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:17,839 lashing out and from that 1268 00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:20,720 um it took the shape of a wolf which 1269 00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:24,400 then walked directly towards us uh sat 1270 00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,560 down no more than five feet away in a 1271 00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:28,640 somber position and just stared intently 1272 00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:30,000 at us 1273 00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:32,560 now you say it like a traditional wolf 1274 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:35,119 or what we call a werewolf what kind of 1275 00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:36,160 wolf 1276 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,760 i'd call it a 1277 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:41,119 gray 1278 00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:45,680 kind of a scrawny wolf with a really 1279 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,960 long bushy tail 1280 00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:50,880 dark eyes the eyes weren't glowing the 1281 00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,079 wolf did not walk on two feet uh it 1282 00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,640 never spoke and it just uh 1283 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,640 and it it was not a it also was not a 1284 00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,520 dog 1285 00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:01,280 up here in wisconsin we have wolves 1286 00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,960 which they actually do not even have 1287 00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,040 wolves in utah which makes it even more 1288 00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,880 interesting they've been extinct for 1289 00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:08,800 some it wasn't like one of the dog men 1290 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:11,680 wasn't smoking a cigarette 1291 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,200 smoked it that time and i probably i 1292 00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:16,960 probably would have asked for it for 1293 00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:17,760 one 1294 00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,119 i was so nervous 1295 00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,440 at seeing that no it was not and i know 1296 00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,920 the story you're talking about 1297 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,359 but uh 1298 00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,200 which to me makes it all all the more 1299 00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,520 mysterious and real um 1300 00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,359 the uh the wolf sat there for a good 1301 00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,920 five minutes we didn't know what to do 1302 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,000 and it eventually uh 1303 00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:37,760 made the choice for us by turning around 1304 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:40,160 walked behind a rock a large rock and 1305 00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:41,520 vanished we looked behind the rock there 1306 00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:42,960 was nothing there 1307 00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:45,119 and from where the wolf was now walked 1308 00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,880 uh 1309 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:49,200 it's kind of silly but a porcupine 1310 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:51,760 walked up and sat down to the same exact 1311 00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,640 spot where the wolf was and did the same 1312 00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,480 solemn um 1313 00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:58,319 statuesque kind of 1314 00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,599 planted itself right there and just 1315 00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:01,040 stared at us well i don't remember that 1316 00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:02,559 detail wow 1317 00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:04,240 were there any tracks from it did it 1318 00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,160 leave physical tracks any sort of trace 1319 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:08,400 evidence 1320 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:09,680 uh 1321 00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,480 here's i i wish i the biggest problem 1322 00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,920 with skinwalker ranch again and 1323 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,040 especially 1324 00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:17,280 what we were doing at that time which i 1325 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,319 haven't done any trespassing since 1326 00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,000 um is uh 1327 00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:24,160 you're already walking on a razor's edge 1328 00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:26,960 you know being out there as you know 1329 00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,119 and uh right after this right after this 1330 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,599 occurred we heard the the guards were 1331 00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:33,440 walking down the path directly towards 1332 00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,599 us we could hear their seabees 1333 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:37,119 and and them 1334 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,800 talking together so 1335 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,319 we packed everything up pretty quick 1336 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,000 because they started at this point they 1337 00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:44,480 were jogging up towards our position so 1338 00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:46,800 we packed everything up and 1339 00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,270 i tailed it out of there 1340 00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,240 they probably ended up blaming it on you 1341 00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,319 you became government agents that were 1342 00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:58,480 putting holographic technology to work 1343 00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:01,680 and uh freaking them out remember that 1344 00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:04,319 i remember that yeah no i don't know but 1345 00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:06,880 i do you know years later in uh in my 1346 00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,040 second book uh what is it skinwalker 1347 00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:10,960 ranch no trespassing 1348 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:13,920 i i did obtain 1349 00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:17,040 access to some of the guard files and 1350 00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,920 oddly that that night there is not an 1351 00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:22,480 incident of 1352 00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,040 of the encounter so i'm still perplexed 1353 00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:28,000 and confused by that 1354 00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:29,040 encounter 1355 00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:30,880 but but that's one of many i mean to me 1356 00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,319 that was one of the most dramatic things 1357 00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,079 that that ever happened and left a 1358 00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:35,920 lassie impression on me 1359 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,040 and i'm always looking for that 1360 00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:38,880 experience again i guess 1361 00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:40,559 so what would you do this time put you 1362 00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:41,280 know 1363 00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:44,640 put a 38 slug between his eyes or 1364 00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:46,079 that's fine i mean that real thoughts 1365 00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,440 like that really were going through my 1366 00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:49,280 head at the time i mean do i do i try to 1367 00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,680 bash this thing over the head do i 1368 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,480 do i pet it do i communicate with it i 1369 00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,400 remember trying to talk to it but it 1370 00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,640 there was no response 1371 00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:00,720 so the key here is that this 1372 00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,920 thing never displayed any evidence of 1373 00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,160 hostile intent i'm going to ask you more 1374 00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,000 about that in our next segment because 1375 00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:10,400 we got a lot to talk about two new books 1376 00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,200 out 1377 00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:13,280 from ryan skinner who i guess at this 1378 00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:15,119 point has written more books about 1379 00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:20,790 thank you how about that think about 1380 00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,280 that and we'll talk more about that in 1381 00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:25,440 our next segment with gene and with 1382 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:28,160 chris you're in 1383 00:51:33,850 --> 00:51:38,150 [Music] 1384 00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:40,309 independently leading the way for the 1385 00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:43,200 nation compelling talk for every 1386 00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:46,040 political persuasion we are 1387 00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:47,839 gcn 1388 00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,400 if you owe 10 000 or more to the irs or 1389 00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,079 state in back taxes you know they'll 1390 00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:54,000 never stop coming after you with bank 1391 00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,440 levies wage garnishments they'll even 1392 00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:57,119 seize your home or business the good 1393 00:52:01,109 --> 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00:54:18,640 clans of werewolves or packs of 1451 00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,599 werewolves on the sci-fi channel 1452 00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,960 but we're not going to talk about that 1453 00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,400 we'll talk about things that happen in 1454 00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:26,720 reality so i asked a question of ryan 1455 00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,680 skinner our guest and prolific author of 1456 00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,839 books on skinwalker ranch 1457 00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,839 would you have a response 1458 00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:36,000 what do i think about werewolves no no 1459 00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,680 no no 1460 00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,440 no sorry g 1461 00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,200 gene is a werewolf so be careful with 1462 00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:43,200 your answer that's right you know 1463 00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,240 remember even a man who is pure in heart 1464 00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:48,400 and says his prayers by night may become 1465 00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:49,599 a wolf 1466 00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,760 when the wolf bane blooms and the autumn 1467 00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:53,760 moon is bright 1468 00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,480 remember that yeah evidently 1469 00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,880 i remember it 1470 00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:59,920 okay 1471 00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:01,839 we're taking over here folks 1472 00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,800 let's go back to the basic core of this 1473 00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,040 here ryan you never thought when you're 1474 00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:09,200 seeing these creatures my god i gotta 1475 00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,640 get out of here 1476 00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,559 what if it attacks well if it wants to 1477 00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,720 make me its lunch the minute that the 1478 00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:16,400 myth the ball of light uh flew over 1479 00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,960 ahead this thing was 10 feet above us i 1480 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,720 wanted nothing i wanted to be anywhere 1481 00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,240 else in the world except where i was at 1482 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,640 at that point and then uh 1483 00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:26,480 and then when it landed 1484 00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:29,359 feeling even intensified at that point 1485 00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,880 to wanting to run and unfortunately 1486 00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:33,040 we're at the edge of a cliff so where it 1487 00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:35,680 landed uh was was my only escape route i 1488 00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,040 would have had to 1489 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:39,839 jump over they call it werewolf ridge 1490 00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:43,280 werewolf rage skinwalker 1491 00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:45,040 the locals well 1492 00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:47,119 recently more recently researchers 1493 00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:49,119 researchers have renamed it skinwalker 1494 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:50,799 rich but i found out from speaking with 1495 00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,000 the locals who have been there for the 1496 00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,000 past 40 50 years 1497 00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:55,839 it actually had the nickname that very 1498 00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,559 rich before the shermans and 1499 00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,319 nids and bigelow and the whole hoopla 1500 00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:03,040 came into town it was uh named werewolf 1501 00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,000 ridge 1502 00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,160 really well that's news 1503 00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:08,319 it's got a history to it yeah and that's 1504 00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,000 where if you follow that ridge line up 1505 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,319 isn't that where the um the burial 1506 00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:13,920 ground is 1507 00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:16,079 right yep on the eastern part of the 1508 00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:17,599 property right 1509 00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,040 which is not a place that i would 1510 00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,960 recommend anyone going 1511 00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,960 based on what i've heard uh from sources 1512 00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,400 up there locals 1513 00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,480 that is the reason why the ranch is 1514 00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:29,520 taboo according to some some accounts 1515 00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:31,440 okay ryan do you believe in werewolves 1516 00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,400 then 1517 00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:34,319 interesting you know i'm i'm located in 1518 00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,119 uh 1519 00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:38,000 wisconsin about 20 miles away from 1520 00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:39,119 i don't know if you've ever heard of the 1521 00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:40,960 bray road beast of course we've had 1522 00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,119 linda on the show many times linda of 1523 00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,200 course uh the author 1524 00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,280 yeah linda's great she's uh and again 1525 00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:49,760 that's about 20 miles from my house 1526 00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:51,040 and when that whole 1527 00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,319 incident occurred you know i'm just 1528 00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:54,000 fascinated by the whole 1529 00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:57,520 mythos and the story behind it 1530 00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:57,839 you so 1531 00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:59,280 a werewolf hitchhiker and you didn't 1532 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,319 realize it 1533 00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:03,359 exactly followed me to utah at that time 1534 00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,880 well the thing of course if it's a 1535 00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:06,559 werewolf it would be in the form of a 1536 00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,760 human 1537 00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:09,520 so you never know well there have been 1538 00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:11,760 those up there too my favorite story is 1539 00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:13,839 the werewolf that the cops were chasing 1540 00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,799 that was leaping 20 25 30 feet from 1541 00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,960 house to house on the rooftops being 1542 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,480 followed by the cops 1543 00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:22,880 witnessed allegedly by quite a number of 1544 00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:25,119 people that was up just two miles north 1545 00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,119 in fort duchesne from the ranch right 1546 00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,440 right yeah yeah the cops yeah the cops 1547 00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,799 were actually chasing this thing it was 1548 00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,640 knocking over garbage cans multiple 1549 00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,160 people had seen it 1550 00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:36,480 yeah it just fascinates me how kind of 1551 00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:37,839 the locals just 1552 00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:39,760 how mundane these things are to the 1553 00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,839 locals out there i still have not 1554 00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,440 tracked down the cell phone shot of it 1555 00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:45,119 supposedly someone did get a cell phone 1556 00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:46,000 picture 1557 00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:47,359 i haven't heard of that boy would i like 1558 00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:48,400 to see and i've heard different 1559 00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:50,079 descriptions of it too one person 1560 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,559 described as having a hammerhead shark 1561 00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,400 kind of a head to it 1562 00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:56,400 oh that's fine 1563 00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:57,680 yeah i guess 1564 00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,720 the cop had cornered it and as it 1565 00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,640 left over the rooftop you got a clear 1566 00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,079 view of it yeah that is pretty 1567 00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,240 frightening um anyway do i believe in 1568 00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:09,119 werewolves i don't know um 1569 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,400 i believe in 1570 00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:12,160 i think this i think whatever these 1571 00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,680 things are they're they're dimensional 1572 00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:15,200 in nature 1573 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,359 they're crossing time and space i don't 1574 00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:20,400 think it's traditional 1575 00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:23,119 just just my gut feeling on this uh 1576 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:24,559 i don't think it's as simple as just uh 1577 00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:27,280 visitors from another planet or uh or 1578 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,400 werewolves and vampires i think it's uh 1579 00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:32,640 it is somewhat grounded in a science 1580 00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,559 that's yet unknown to us 1581 00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:36,400 all right let me ask you a fast question 1582 00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:37,520 then 1583 00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,000 how do you come to this conclusion with 1584 00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,480 what evidence would you assume any time 1585 00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:44,559 space transfers 1586 00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:47,680 it's a lack of evidence 1587 00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,400 yeah a good point yeah that that's 1588 00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,160 probably exactly it 1589 00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:54,319 you know it's just me and my voice uh 1590 00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:55,920 saying this but i know what i know we 1591 00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:58,240 had captured everything on on film 1592 00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:01,280 and for for that all to be erased uh as 1593 00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:03,440 smoothly as it was 1594 00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,200 and seamlessly 1595 00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,079 to me that that seems to point towards 1596 00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,160 something being able to alter alter time 1597 00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:12,640 at least potentially space as these 1598 00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:14,559 things are popping in and out of our 1599 00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:16,799 reality i mean i've seen them and others 1600 00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:19,040 i've countless stories of 1601 00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:20,720 these balls of light and entities 1602 00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:22,720 actually walking literally right into 1603 00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:26,000 the ridge itself into solid rock 1604 00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:28,240 i don't think they operate on the same 1605 00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:30,319 three-dimensional physics that we're 1606 00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,480 bound to and uh it's kind of a bombshell 1607 00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:36,960 but you know every year every year my 1608 00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,559 everyone asks my opinion or what is my 1609 00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:40,559 hypothesis or what is what are these 1610 00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,599 things and 1611 00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:43,200 lately 1612 00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:44,799 i've always said it has a spiritual 1613 00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:47,839 nature to it um and 1614 00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:50,400 lately i'm leaning towards this is kind 1615 00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,000 of uh 1616 00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:54,160 might be shocking but uh the gin and 1617 00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:55,839 when i say the gin i'm referring to uh 1618 01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:58,799 the islamic version of genies 1619 01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:01,599 not the non-traditional western media 1620 01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:03,119 portrayal of them 1621 01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:05,359 just a lot of things seem to align with 1622 01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:09,200 with that that entity and that 1623 01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:11,440 that type of being 1624 01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:12,640 which are 1625 01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:14,559 normally associated with particular 1626 01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,480 locations 1627 01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:18,480 the gender typically tend to 1628 01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:19,119 be 1629 01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,960 one spot 1630 01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:22,799 yeah yeah that that's another aspect to 1631 01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:24,640 them and and whatever this is doesn't 1632 01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:25,920 you know it seems to be on i've always 1633 01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:27,520 called it i've always called it a leash 1634 01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:29,440 they seem to be leashed and tethered to 1635 01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:30,160 uh 1636 01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:31,920 to the ranch in that that you went to 1637 01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:34,880 basin area it does not seem to stray 1638 01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,040 much further past that despite 1639 01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:39,280 despite my own book having stories of 1640 01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:42,079 the whole four corners region but uh i 1641 01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:43,520 think 1642 01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:44,960 it really is 1643 01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,960 significantly hotter right in that you 1644 01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:48,559 went to basin 1645 01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:50,960 versus uh almost any other location i've 1646 01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,520 ever been to or even well that brings us 1647 01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:55,680 to to the uh to the new books why don't 1648 01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:57,760 you give us uh some of some highlights 1649 01:01:02,150 --> 01:00:59,680 from the new books and some of the 1650 01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,160 accounts that you've uh included 1651 01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,480 that you haven't discussed uh before on 1652 01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:06,480 the show or written about in your other 1653 01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:08,319 books 1654 01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:10,559 where did these stories come from why 1655 01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:11,359 why 1656 01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,799 release them now 1657 01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:13,920 and uh 1658 01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:15,839 you know give us a sense of what they 1659 01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:16,799 are 1660 01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:20,079 well actually was crafting a single book 1661 01:01:23,829 --> 01:01:22,160 all the material that i had gathered i 1662 01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:23,839 realized i had two separate stories to 1663 01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:24,960 tell 1664 01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:27,200 tales of the skinwalker is just a is a 1665 01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:28,720 collection of 1666 01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:31,359 of stories of different 1667 01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:32,559 different people in the four corners 1668 01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,839 region when i say the four quarters 1669 01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:35,359 region of course 1670 01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:39,440 that's uh colorado new mexico arizona 1671 01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:41,440 utah nevada 1672 01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:42,640 i i 1673 01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:44,720 found that they're really 1674 01:01:50,150 --> 01:01:47,680 i sought out uh other books on on the 1675 01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:50,160 topic of skimwalkers and i didn't want i 1676 01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:51,680 didn't want fantasy i wanted to hear 1677 01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:53,760 actual stories and tales about people 1678 01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:55,599 encountering a skinwalker and i couldn't 1679 01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:57,200 find any so 1680 01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:58,720 i'd been holding on to a few stories 1681 01:02:01,829 --> 01:02:00,240 people had shared with me over the years 1682 01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:01,839 but unfortunately they were from all 1683 01:02:05,109 --> 01:02:02,640 over 1684 01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:05,119 from areas other than just skinwalker 1685 01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:06,880 ranch so i couldn't utilize them in the 1686 01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:08,559 other book but uh 1687 01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,640 but being a little bit more broad-based 1688 01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,480 i found some commonalities and some 1689 01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:14,400 really fascinating stories about people 1690 01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:15,920 encountering these 1691 01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:19,119 the other book the ufo farm 1692 01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:21,839 is a kind of chronicles 1693 01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:24,160 my personal story over the years it 1694 01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:26,640 summarizes almost the first two books 1695 01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:28,559 that i wrote on the topic 1696 01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,319 and uh introduces a lot of new 1697 01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:32,240 information from some 1698 01:02:35,589 --> 01:02:33,599 it's almost an extension of the second 1699 01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:35,599 book no trespassing 1700 01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,599 which i was given a lot of information 1701 01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:39,520 from insiders regarding the phenomena 1702 01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:41,359 and and uh i've 1703 01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:42,880 since that book was written i've 1704 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:44,480 collected even more information from 1705 01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:46,240 from new sources 1706 01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,880 which which i've chronicled in that book 1707 01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,640 i've also included uh 1708 01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:52,480 yeah it's one thing to write things down 1709 01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:54,640 i guess words create a 1710 01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,680 create 1711 01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:57,520 more of a picture than a photo itself 1712 01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:59,440 but uh the problem is 1713 01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,559 when you're really reading about the 1714 01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:02,160 ranch you want to visualize all these 1715 01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,799 different areas that i'm describing so i 1716 01:03:09,030 --> 01:03:07,119 included quite a few photos and and some 1717 01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:09,040 of my readers had asked 1718 01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:11,280 for more pictures and photos so quite a 1719 01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:12,960 bit of the book 1720 01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:14,799 photos of the region 1721 01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:17,280 drawings of eyewitnesses who had 1722 01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:19,520 encounters again unfortunately a lot of 1723 01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,799 people you know there's not a lot of 1724 01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,640 photographic and video evidence i 1725 01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:24,000 captured what i could from years ago 1726 01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:25,599 it's on my website 1727 01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:26,400 but 1728 01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:28,720 uh the best evidence is is the human 1729 01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:31,039 mind and putting that to uh 1730 01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:32,880 to pen and paper 1731 01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:34,240 it's not the best evidence but that's 1732 01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:36,000 all that we have at the moment let's 1733 01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:37,599 break for this moment and have more to 1734 01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:38,880 talk about 1735 01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:40,799 with ryan skinner and gene and chris 1736 01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:49,430 you pick up the receiver with your heart 1737 01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:51,119 racing and sweat dripping from your 1738 01:03:54,309 --> 01:03:52,960 forehead you finally muster the courage 1739 01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:54,319 to dial the number to call into your 1740 01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:56,720 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is a summary of 1852 01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:21,920 some of the interviews that i've done 1853 01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:23,679 over the years and 1854 01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:24,880 it highlights the interviews that i've 1855 01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:26,719 done here in the paracast and the 1856 01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:28,719 information that we've uncovered i find 1857 01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:30,239 all that to be pertinent because a lot 1858 01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:32,719 of it's not in in the utah ufo display 1859 01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:35,199 and colin kelleher's books my own books 1860 01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,560 you know from just us sitting here 1861 01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:39,199 talking right now or creating 1862 01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:41,040 information sharing stories that no 1863 01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:42,880 one's ever heard before 1864 01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:44,640 and i feel uh 1865 01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:47,839 part of what i'm doing here is is acting 1866 01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:50,080 as if some sort of repository for these 1867 01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,839 stories that someone else one day will 1868 01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:53,520 carry the torch 1869 01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:55,839 and help uh reveal the mystery behind 1870 01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:57,279 what what is going on out there 1871 01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:59,279 something very real is happening i mean 1872 01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,640 we have government agencies 1873 01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,880 investigating and contracting the 1874 01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,480 research that's being done out there we 1875 01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,799 have a billionaire who owns the property 1876 01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,319 who to this day 1877 01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:10,400 is paying researchers and guards to 1878 01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:11,679 guard it 1879 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,480 it's a mystery it's one i intend to 1880 01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,640 i mean even if even if i'm not able to 1881 01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:18,480 one day i hope someone else can pick up 1882 01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:20,880 the torch and continue 1883 01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,960 to shed some light on this 1884 01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:23,759 well 1885 01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:25,520 let's hear some of the more riveting 1886 01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:27,920 accounts uh that are included in these 1887 01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,480 uh in these two new books uh 1888 01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,560 for instance uh you know we have the 1889 01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:34,719 ongoing controversy 1890 01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:36,080 that 1891 01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:38,239 inadvertently helped fuel with my 1892 01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:40,080 appearance on the jessie ventura show 1893 01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:42,239 when i was frank and quoted 1894 01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:44,640 as confirming rumors of deaths on the 1895 01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:46,080 ranch 1896 01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:47,679 which is the exact opposite of what i 1897 01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,319 said i said i can't confirm rumors but 1898 01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:52,560 uh what are the full this this question 1899 01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,239 comes from one of our listeners uh who 1900 01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:56,480 posted a question on the question thread 1901 01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:58,880 at form.theparacast.com 1902 01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:01,679 where our guests are asked questions by 1903 01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:04,560 paracast forum posters and cosmonaut 1904 01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,080 wants to know what are the full and 1905 01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,000 complete details of an alleged battle on 1906 01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:10,000 the ranch between wormhole aliens and 1907 01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,320 big low-armed personnel first of all do 1908 01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:15,120 you think it's true why or why not 1909 01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:17,679 and uh and then he goes on for a second 1910 01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:19,760 question but let's look at that 1911 01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:21,600 according to what i 1912 01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:24,159 uh have seen in the new books uh there's 1913 01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:26,080 very little if any mention of that i 1914 01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,440 guess i'm 1915 01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:29,679 i'm not a big supporter of that theory i 1916 01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,760 know it's the most shocking account 1917 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:33,360 out there and it makes for a great story 1918 01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:36,000 but i've done my own digging into that 1919 01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:38,239 story quite a bit by people that are in 1920 01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:40,159 the know that would know 1921 01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:41,520 and i keep hitting i keep hitting a 1922 01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:43,520 brick wall i can't remember who brought 1923 01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:45,920 this story to light was it a 1924 01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:49,360 safari i can't see his name right safari 1925 01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:52,800 jacks farty i think he's uh some sort of 1926 01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:54,480 physicist jack sarfati he's a 1927 01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,480 astrophysicist who lives on the north 1928 01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:58,480 beach in california 1929 01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,560 where there's smoke there's fire but i 1930 01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:02,640 think a lot of the facts of the story 1931 01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:04,159 got misinterpreted 1932 01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:05,440 i've since 1933 01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:08,159 spoken with colonel alexander who i'm 1934 01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:10,719 now trying to form a better relationship 1935 01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,760 and a working relationship with with uh 1936 01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:15,280 as i might be doing some future work 1937 01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,320 with them 1938 01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:18,560 and also with uh 1939 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,239 george knapp himself 1940 01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:22,560 i'm just not convinced that 1941 01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,239 that someone was actually 1942 01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,239 killed on the property and that this the 1943 01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:28,719 story is as as was told yeah it's 1944 01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,560 interesting i happen to mention your 1945 01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:32,640 appearance on the show today to a fellow 1946 01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:34,159 researcher today 1947 01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:35,600 and he said you know i've known george 1948 01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:37,120 knapp for i don't know how many years 1949 01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:38,400 and that's the only the only time he's 1950 01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:39,840 ever yelled at me is when i asked him 1951 01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:41,280 about about the 1952 01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,320 alleged deaths on the ranch he said he 1953 01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:46,400 he found that a little peculiar because 1954 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,080 george is not usually the type that 1955 01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:50,320 would yell at you okay he yelled at you 1956 01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,480 what did he say what was he yelling 1957 01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:54,480 about or was it just well generally 1958 01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:56,480 denying that there was anything to the 1959 01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:57,679 story and 1960 01:12:02,630 --> 01:11:59,520 when i talked to him initially all the 1961 01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,640 way back in 2003 i think or 2004 when 1962 01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:04,480 this whole thing first cropped its ugly 1963 01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,360 head 1964 01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:07,360 uh he was very circumspect about it and 1965 01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:08,880 said that was the first he'd ever heard 1966 01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:09,920 about it 1967 01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,000 but i guess possibly now down through 1968 01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,320 the years he's had so many people ask 1969 01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:15,840 him about it that it 1970 01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:19,280 it's probably uh it's become a bit of a 1971 01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:21,520 sore point uh for him 1972 01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,679 of course there are the uh sources that 1973 01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:25,440 i've been able to uncover that do 1974 01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:27,840 confirm that something uh unusual uh 1975 01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,360 occurred on the ranch 1976 01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:31,440 so uh in terms of 1977 01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:32,640 dying 1978 01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:34,239 that's the point i want to make i where 1979 01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:35,360 there's smoke there's fire i think 1980 01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:37,440 something did occur but i i think it's 1981 01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:38,320 getting 1982 01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,960 sensationalized with with the current 1983 01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:42,719 version of somebody 1984 01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:45,440 being killed i think something fantastic 1985 01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,360 occurred i just at this point i just 1986 01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:49,440 don't know what um and when i had 1987 01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:52,080 brought this uh to colonel alexander he 1988 01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,840 seemed to have a pretty 1989 01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,760 pretty dramatic emotional reaction to 1990 01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,520 that claim as well just like uh just 1991 01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:59,600 like george and apples had 1992 01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,679 is there any evidence though that anyone 1993 01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:03,920 came to harm at all that we can really 1994 01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:05,040 pinpoint 1995 01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:07,120 here's what i believe happened i don't 1996 01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:09,040 i'm not here to promote other books but 1997 01:13:12,310 --> 01:13:10,320 i'm actually i'm just here to promote 1998 01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:12,320 the topic of skinwalker ranch in general 1999 01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:14,239 and anybody doing any sort of research 2000 01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:16,080 or working to that topic i'm fascinated 2001 01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:18,719 by and actually support 2002 01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:20,640 uh there was a book written by i believe 2003 01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:22,960 the author's name is eric retz 2004 01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:26,000 who uh claims to be 2005 01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:28,719 i think uh working with one of the 2006 01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:30,400 guards at skinwalker ranch one of the 2007 01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:32,080 ex-guards at skinwalker ranch who kind 2008 01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:34,320 of gave a 2009 01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:36,800 bear all story of what had happened to 2010 01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:39,040 him out there and his claim according to 2011 01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:40,719 his claim um 2012 01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:42,560 real similar story to mine seeing balls 2013 01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:43,920 of light one of the balls of light 2014 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:46,159 landed and these two uh two wolves 2015 01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:47,520 approached and actually they were 2016 01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:50,560 walking uh bipedally uh towards him he 2017 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:51,920 ended up 2018 01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:53,920 falling backwards into a portal and 2019 01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:55,520 according to the story he was missing 2020 01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,120 for three days 2021 01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:59,280 while the uh while bigelow and everyone 2022 01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:01,040 at the ranch was uh 2023 01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:02,800 i guess uh pretty concerned when one of 2024 01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:04,560 their guards suddenly goes missing 2025 01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:06,800 completely in another state 2026 01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:09,360 on a paranormal ranch doing research 2027 01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:11,120 and in that time he claims he was in 2028 01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:12,640 some sort of alternate alternate 2029 01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:13,760 dimension 2030 01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:15,760 and shown various things but uh but he 2031 01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:17,360 returned uh three days later and was 2032 01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:19,760 taken to the hospital he turned alive i 2033 01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:21,120 guess he was pretty 2034 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:23,120 perched and uh 2035 01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,120 and weakened but uh 2036 01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,080 he was uh debriefed and brought back to 2037 01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:30,960 nevada back to the compound and uh 2038 01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:33,760 finally decided to share his story so 2039 01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:35,120 they brought him back and used them as 2040 01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:36,320 bait 2041 01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:38,560 the car the cards that i know the ones 2042 01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,719 i've i've spoken with that is the exact 2043 01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:42,560 term that that they have told to me they 2044 01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:44,480 said they questioned uh whether they 2045 01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:46,080 were there whether their role was to 2046 01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:47,920 guard anything at all or whether they 2047 01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:50,239 were the ones being experimented on it's 2048 01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:52,080 been dangled 2049 01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:54,000 yeah all right 2050 01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,560 you know i'm a blue rapala today 2051 01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:58,880 you can be a dry fly i'm not going to 2052 01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:00,880 ask anyone to explain what that means 2053 01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:03,360 well those are types of bait gene you 2054 01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:05,840 have salmon eggs flies 2055 01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:09,679 lures you can be a wiggly worm 2056 01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:12,800 even grasshoppers pieces of meat 2057 01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:15,280 can all be used as bait well i 2058 01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:17,840 understand here i do not do fishing i 2059 01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:20,080 did fishing when i was 10 years old 2060 01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:21,760 and then i did fishing when i was 11 2061 01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,800 years old 2062 01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,800 and i didn't do any more fishing i guess 2063 01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:26,719 because i don't eat seafood 2064 01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:28,800 so i don't see the value well if you're 2065 01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:31,440 ever fishing for a sky trout the type 2066 01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:33,679 that i've seen videotape flying by in 2067 01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:34,960 the air 2068 01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:37,120 the best way to catch those is with a 2069 01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:40,000 sky blue rapala lure all right well 2070 01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,520 maybe we should advertise this they'll 2071 01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:43,280 come over and buy ads 2072 01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:45,600 i'm sorry i'm just i'm 2073 01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:48,480 i'm waxing uh outdoorsy here 2074 01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:51,520 well ryan uh you know i did 2075 01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:52,400 get 2076 01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:55,520 confirmation of a death on the ranch 2077 01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:57,520 according to one source it was an indian 2078 01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:59,520 who used the ranch as a place to commit 2079 01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:00,800 suicide 2080 01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:01,920 the other 2081 01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:04,000 confirmation was just that somebody's 2082 01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:07,280 death was investigated on the ranch 2083 01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:09,440 i have never uncovered anything high 2084 01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:11,199 strange or paranormal 2085 01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,520 behind these particular 2086 01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:15,600 claims if you will 2087 01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:17,040 uncorroborated 2088 01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:18,400 to some extent 2089 01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:20,880 but something did go on there and i've 2090 01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:22,719 i've whittled it down to somewhere 2091 01:16:27,270 --> 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--> 01:20:20,800 in the industry but if you give them a 2191 01:20:24,630 --> 01:20:22,640 call and mention the radio special they 2192 01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:24,640 will give you a list of the day's super 2193 01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:27,199 specials midas brokers are standing by 2194 01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:32,870 800-686-2237 also have a lot of 2195 01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:35,040 informative free literature explaining 2196 01:20:39,189 --> 01:20:37,040 the opportunities and risk of holding 2197 01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:39,199 precious metals they are ready to answer 2198 01:20:46,420 --> 01:20:54,630 [Music] 2199 01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:55,990 this is micah hanks at the great league 2200 01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:57,600 report and you're listening to the 2201 01:21:00,690 --> 01:20:59,840 paracast the gold standard of paranormal 2202 01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:00,700 radio 2203 01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:08,239 [Music] 2204 01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:10,239 chris o'brien let's go back through time 2205 01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:12,800 tell us about this particular strange 2206 01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:15,360 event well again these are only rumors 2207 01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:17,679 uh they're not corroborated they haven't 2208 01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,000 been confirmed i have not been able to 2209 01:21:24,070 --> 01:21:22,080 obtain any sort of documentation to 2210 01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,080 support these claims but 2211 01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:26,320 uh two separate sources did mention a 2212 01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:29,120 death of some individual on the ranch 2213 01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:31,040 sometime in the mid to latter parts of 2214 01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:33,280 the summer of 1999 2215 01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:36,000 whether these are sources that you trust 2216 01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:38,400 yes they are um 2217 01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,000 one source that i 2218 01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,239 trust implicitly because they worked 2219 01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:44,239 nearby the ranch on a 2220 01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:46,960 a large 2221 01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:51,840 profile position 2222 01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,480 i've checked her out uh it's a it's a 2223 01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:56,719 woman i've checked her out in her bona 2224 01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:57,760 fides 2225 01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:59,679 you know she was who she 2226 01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:00,880 said she was 2227 01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:02,400 and did have the work history that she 2228 01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,840 claimed she had 2229 01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:05,199 and um 2230 01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:06,960 she would not have come to me with this 2231 01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:09,199 particular story unless i you know in my 2232 01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:11,040 estimation unless uh she felt that it 2233 01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:11,920 was true 2234 01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:14,320 and she did have a a personal one-on-one 2235 01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:15,840 interaction with 2236 01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:18,320 ute law enforcement personnel who did 2237 01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:20,480 confirm that there was a suicide on the 2238 01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:21,360 ranch 2239 01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:23,440 she didn't believe him at the time she 2240 01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:24,960 felt he was covering up something but 2241 01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:27,199 that's what she was told and she was 2242 01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:28,320 right there 2243 01:22:32,229 --> 01:22:31,360 observing unusual activity on the ranch 2244 01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,239 when 2245 01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,800 this interaction with law enforcement 2246 01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:36,239 personnel 2247 01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:37,360 occurred 2248 01:22:42,149 --> 01:22:39,199 she was asked 2249 01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,159 to immediately leave vacate you know her 2250 01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:43,920 vantage point where she had 2251 01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:46,080 she found herself uh confronted by law 2252 01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:47,440 enforcement so 2253 01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:48,800 i you know i don't want to give away any 2254 01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:50,719 names i don't have permission to use her 2255 01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:51,760 name 2256 01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:52,480 but 2257 01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:54,239 that wasn't the only person i had 2258 01:22:58,709 --> 01:22:56,719 someone else also confirmed that a death 2259 01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:58,719 occurred on the ranch however i have 2260 01:23:01,750 --> 01:22:59,840 never 2261 01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:01,760 heard anything having to do with the 2262 01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:05,040 paranormal the high strange fire fights 2263 01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:07,520 some sort of altercation 2264 01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:10,719 with either accidental or otherwise i 2265 01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:12,000 have never heard anything to 2266 01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:13,920 authenticate any of those types of 2267 01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:17,360 scenarios i have heard you know as ryan 2268 01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:19,760 mentioned sensationalized versions of a 2269 01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:22,320 portal opening up right in front of uh 2270 01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,040 personnel and and somebody falling in in 2271 01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:27,040 one one uh 2272 01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:29,360 case and that was before the recent book 2273 01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,560 that came out what was the guy's name 2274 01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:32,320 eric what was his name that wrote the 2275 01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:35,120 book eric reitz 2276 01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:36,960 this is before eric's book came out i 2277 01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:38,560 did hear about somebody 2278 01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:40,880 inadvertently falling into or having the 2279 01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:42,960 portal open up and kill them was one 2280 01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:44,639 version of the story 2281 01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:47,520 um so again all this is just it's all 2282 01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:50,000 fireside chat material it's uh campfire 2283 01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:52,800 stories until we can get some sort of 2284 01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,800 uh you know real 2285 01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:56,159 evidence have you ever checked into a 2286 01:24:01,669 --> 01:23:58,960 suicide on the ranch uh ryan no but you 2287 01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:01,679 got me hungry for that story so now i 2288 01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:03,840 might be talking off error about this uh 2289 01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:05,360 a little bit the second second half of 2290 01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:08,400 july 1999 is about when i can id the 2291 01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:10,639 time period no i knew uh any one of the 2292 01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:13,120 myers children had some sort of accident 2293 01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:15,360 on the property and uh was buried on the 2294 01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:17,920 ranch which is uh one of the reasons why 2295 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,360 they told the shermans that there's no 2296 01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:20,880 digging on the ranch 2297 01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:23,040 according to colm kelleher and george 2298 01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:25,600 knapp it seemed that terry felt at any 2299 01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,400 time he was going to do some digging 2300 01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:30,400 and actually started using a backhoe or 2301 01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,719 started putting in irrigation 2302 01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:34,480 digging ditches that sort of thing that 2303 01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:36,480 seemed to spark activity and it seemed 2304 01:24:39,830 --> 01:24:38,480 to be like throwing gasoline on fire or 2305 01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:39,840 something 2306 01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:40,960 yeah i don't i don't know what that 2307 01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:42,639 parallel is yet 2308 01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:46,000 i remember reading that so and i know uh 2309 01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:48,159 in the northern part of the property 2310 01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:50,080 two years ago the 2311 01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,400 they're doing all sorts of uh 2312 01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:54,159 i don't know if it's fracking or what 2313 01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:54,960 they're doing out there but they're 2314 01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:57,120 doing oil excavation 2315 01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,880 all around the ranch and they were 2316 01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:00,719 actually building a pipeline right right 2317 01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:02,719 through the northern part northern part 2318 01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:05,600 of the ranch digging in the pipeline 2319 01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,840 at the base of the ridge 2320 01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,679 uh right past the ridge a little bit 2321 01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,040 north of the ridge 2322 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:13,440 and i know uh bigelow wasn't too happy 2323 01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:16,480 about that and the project suddenly 2324 01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:18,239 it didn't continue so i don't know where 2325 01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:20,239 it's at right now have you checked into 2326 01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:22,159 the mineral in mineral rights and 2327 01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:23,600 treasure rights on the property does 2328 01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:25,360 bigelow retain all those it doesn't 2329 01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:27,120 sound like he does he does 2330 01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:28,800 he does and that was another that was 2331 01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:30,880 another uh curious thought i had was 2332 01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,320 maybe he didn't have the mineral rights 2333 01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:34,320 which is exactly why 2334 01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,239 he he does have he does have the rights 2335 01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:38,560 on the property keep in mind the ranch 2336 01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:39,920 and especially everything to the north 2337 01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,719 of it 2338 01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:42,719 uh is owned by hickens not bigelow he 2339 01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:45,520 only owns a small section of that ridge 2340 01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:47,520 right right that's what i thought so but 2341 01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:48,880 but the ranch 2342 01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:52,480 couldn't i guess only be called that 2343 01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:54,560 south of the ridge 2344 01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,800 that's correct but when i think of i 2345 01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:58,880 guess the popular 2346 01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:00,480 idealization of the ranch is that it 2347 01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:02,000 includes the ridge and the ridge line 2348 01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,280 and everything else 2349 01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:04,800 no it doesn't that's why you and i can 2350 01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:07,360 go up there and sneak sneak around 2351 01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:08,880 that's right right right in all 2352 01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,480 confidence 2353 01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,000 when i said i was trespassing not 2354 01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:14,400 necessarily 2355 01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:15,600 i think he did 2356 01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:19,750 actually i don't make a point of going 2357 01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:21,120 up there i tried to stay away from that 2358 01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:23,120 part of the world actually where i'm i'm 2359 01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:24,800 interested in is south of the ranch at 2360 01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:26,320 the southern end of the uinta basin 2361 01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:28,320 where all the you know i i i consider 2362 01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,920 the ranch to be the red herring and all 2363 01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:31,440 the good stuff's happening south of 2364 01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:32,880 there 2365 01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:34,080 yeah at the beginning of this interview 2366 01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,679 that's where i had my first encounter 2367 01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:37,840 was was south of the ranch that whole 2368 01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:40,800 area books cliff area just is that's i 2369 01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:42,080 really think that's where some of this 2370 01:26:45,189 --> 01:26:43,600 is emanating 2371 01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:45,199 yeah with a little bit different 2372 01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:46,880 direction and something i want to make 2373 01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:48,719 sure i get across in the interview a 2374 01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:50,400 little bit of new information 2375 01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:52,000 is uh 2376 01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:55,199 i learned from one of my sources that 2377 01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:56,719 we talked about portals opening up and 2378 01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,639 potentially someone dying out there i 2379 01:27:02,830 --> 01:27:00,320 really want to reiterate to the reader 2380 01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:02,840 that whatever this is out there is not 2381 01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:06,880 benign it is potentially hostile and and 2382 01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:09,280 has been known to have done hostile kind 2383 01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:11,760 of activity to uh others in the past for 2384 01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:14,000 example the best example is 2385 01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:16,560 the dogs that were turned to 2386 01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:17,920 the sherman's dogs that were on the 2387 01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:19,520 ranch that were turned to puddles of goo 2388 01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:21,679 hair and teeth 2389 01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,600 tell us more about that give us more i 2390 01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:25,199 was on the phone with terry the night 2391 01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:26,960 that happened okay can you give us more 2392 01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:28,639 specifics 2393 01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:31,040 i'd rather hear i'd rather hear it from 2394 01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,199 you well i mentioned seriously what did 2395 01:27:36,629 --> 01:27:35,199 terry say well i mentioned this a number 2396 01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:36,639 of times uh 2397 01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:39,040 he called me right when the uh the blue 2398 01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:41,760 uh glowing balls of light showed up and 2399 01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:43,520 he called me on the phone 2400 01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:45,199 and gave me a blow-by-blow description 2401 01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:47,360 of what the balls were doing uh 2402 01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:49,040 in real time 2403 01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:50,480 and 2404 01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:52,400 at one point um i think they had already 2405 01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:53,679 come out and they'd checked out his 2406 01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,600 horses then he called me 2407 01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:57,199 they were out milling around i think 2408 01:28:01,430 --> 01:27:59,040 around the corrals 2409 01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:01,440 his wife went outside he was yelling at 2410 01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:02,960 her to get back in 2411 01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:05,360 uh she came back in the light flew 2412 01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:07,520 really close to the ranch house the the 2413 01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:09,120 lights dimmed 2414 01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:11,360 uh the you know the outside lights and 2415 01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:14,400 the ranch house lights inside dimmed and 2416 01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:16,000 then 2417 01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:17,760 i'd have to check my notes on this but 2418 01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:18,960 um 2419 01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:21,840 pretty quickly within a minute or two 2420 01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:24,000 um he said oh boy 2421 01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:26,080 the light has taken off it took off it 2422 01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:28,400 went out towards towards the the shrubs 2423 01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:30,560 and in the bushes and out towards the 2424 01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:33,920 trees uh and his dogs were uh 2425 01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:36,000 out chasing it he says i gotta go get my 2426 01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:37,920 dogs i'll call you back and he never did 2427 01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:40,639 call me back and so i figured you know 2428 01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:42,080 everything had died down nothing had 2429 01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:42,960 happened 2430 01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:44,719 i called him the next morning or he 2431 01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:46,960 called me i forget which i i think i may 2432 01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,239 have called him 2433 01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:50,719 and he said he had gone out and was 2434 01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:52,480 unable to find his dogs and we went out 2435 01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:54,239 the following morning he found three 2436 01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:56,800 grease piles is how he put it 2437 01:29:01,669 --> 01:28:59,120 which he assumed were his dogs 2438 01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:01,679 and uh later on descriptions came out 2439 01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:03,199 that uh there were 2440 01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:04,080 uh 2441 01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,840 the teeth were there some hair some hide 2442 01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:07,520 and other things but he 2443 01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:10,000 used the word he found three grease 2444 01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:12,480 piles that used to be his dogs is how he 2445 01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:14,239 put it to me the father he was saying 2446 01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,239 long and short of it is he never saw 2447 01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:18,880 those dogs again no okay no the the the 2448 01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:22,159 dogs disappeared and and it's assumed 2449 01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:26,000 that they met a very uh dramatic end 2450 01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:28,000 and uh one thing that i found very 2451 01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:30,159 curious is in the book hunt for the 2452 01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:32,960 skinwalker the event if memory serves me 2453 01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:36,400 correct was stated as happening in april 2454 01:29:39,669 --> 01:29:38,159 of 1995 2455 01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:39,679 when the event actually happened the 2456 01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:42,400 first week of august 1996. because i 2457 01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:44,080 wrote it down 2458 01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:49,199 my logbook and uh so calm and 2459 01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:52,960 and uh george were relying on terry's um 2460 01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:55,120 ten years later his recollections were 2461 01:29:59,189 --> 01:29:57,360 eight years later and terry evidently 2462 01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:59,199 got the dates wrong because i had him 2463 01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:01,360 right i was on the phone with him when 2464 01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,280 that incident happened and to make it 2465 01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:05,280 even more bizarre 2466 01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:07,600 i had just received reports of of 2467 01:30:13,110 --> 01:30:09,679 softball-sized blue glowing lights in 2468 01:30:15,110 --> 01:30:13,120 the san luis valley um the same day that 2469 01:30:18,070 --> 01:30:15,120 those uh types of lights were described 2470 01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:18,080 up at the uinta basin what just strange 2471 01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:20,239 what a strange report i'll tell you just 2472 01:30:24,470 --> 01:30:22,400 to kind of make send it off in even 2473 01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:24,480 further into the twilight zone let's go 2474 01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:26,159 to another twilight zone here and then 2475 01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:27,600 we'll be back and figure out what 2476 01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:30,000 dimension we're in with ryan skinner 2477 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:32,080 gene and chris you're in the twilight 2478 01:30:46,830 --> 01:30:42,229 [Music] 2479 01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:46,840 the genesis communications network g c 2480 01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:49,679 n usually the older one gets the less 2481 01:30:53,110 --> 01:30:51,440 you are able to absorb amino acids and 2482 01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:53,120 the less you are able to repair the 100 2483 01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:55,520 trillion cells of your body as a result 2484 01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:57,040 you'll have less energy your tissues 2485 01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:59,040 will shrink and you'll become wrinkled 2486 01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:00,639 an older person will typically injure 2487 01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:03,679 more easily and heal more slowly not fun 2488 01:31:07,669 --> 01:31:05,679 however if you could consume a protein 2489 01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:07,679 powder that is easier to absorb then you 2490 01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,000 may be able to gain back some strength 2491 01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:12,560 muscle and speed of recovery one world 2492 01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:14,560 whey is a highly digestible whey protein 2493 01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:16,560 powder that may be the perfect answer 2494 01:31:21,590 --> 01:31:19,520 for you my name is errol i'm 74 years 2495 01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:21,600 old you know the taste of one world way 2496 01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:23,840 is amazing i play pickleball and since 2497 01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:25,520 taking one more away in your trace 2498 01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:28,000 mineral supplement i have more energy 2499 01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:30,400 and recover faster from my working out i 2500 01:31:34,070 --> 01:31:32,080 used to take another grass-fed whey 2501 01:31:37,030 --> 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01:32:40,910 --> 01:32:40,000 with the alarm you can trust simply safe 2530 01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:40,920 go to 2531 01:32:44,229 --> 01:32:42,560 simplysafedefense.com now for an 2532 01:32:49,750 --> 01:32:44,239 exclusive 10 offer that's 2533 01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:52,070 hi john huevner from midas resources are 2534 01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:53,600 you tired of watching your hard-earned 2535 01:32:57,110 --> 01:32:55,440 assets dwindle away as government 2536 01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:57,120 spending is out of hand and the federal 2537 01:33:01,270 --> 01:32:59,280 reserve is creating in excess of 20 2538 01:33:02,870 --> 01:33:01,280 billion a week are you tired of stock 2539 01:33:04,790 --> 01:33:02,880 brokers gambling away your hard-earned 2540 01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:04,800 money is this market a set up for a 2541 01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:07,520 crash greater than 1987 too many of 2542 01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:09,520 today's policies resemble those that led 2543 01:33:14,270 --> 01:33:12,560 to the collapse of 1929 2544 01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:14,280 this is jon hubner and that was me in 2545 01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:16,800 2007 and we all know what happened when 2546 01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:18,719 the subprime credit bubble burst by 2547 01:33:23,430 --> 01:33:21,280 march 2009 the dollar lost 50 percent of 2548 01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:23,440 its value the entire u.s banking system 2549 01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:25,440 was on the verge of collapsing like all 2550 01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:27,120 financial problems of the past is 2551 01:33:32,830 --> 01:33:29,280 history about to repeat itself call me 2552 01:33:36,709 --> 01:33:34,950 1-800-686-2237 before it's too late to 2553 01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:36,719 protect yourself will the oncoming 2554 01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:39,760 catastrophe take all private iras 401ks 2555 01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:41,679 with it there is a way to protect your 2556 01:33:48,950 --> 01:33:44,080 hard-earned assets call me john huebner 2557 01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:50,310 complain about your 1-800-686-2237 bill 2558 01:33:54,390 --> 01:33:52,480 going up and up and up do something 2559 01:33:55,790 --> 01:33:54,400 about it grab a pencil and jot down this 2560 01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:55,800 special number 2561 01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:59,120 1-855-905 my tv the more cable tv rates 2562 01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:01,199 go up the better digital satellite tv 2563 01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:03,600 looks say goodbye to the cable guy and 2564 01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:05,040 get more of your favorite channels in 2565 01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:07,760 100 digital quality for less money call 2566 01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:09,520 1-855-905 2567 01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:11,679 my tv sign up for packages starting as 2568 01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:13,920 low as 19.99 and there's no equipment to 2569 01:34:18,550 --> 01:34:16,560 buy you get free hd tv upgrade a free 2570 01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:18,560 dvr upgrade and free professional 2571 01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:20,880 installation you control what you watch 2572 01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:22,880 when you watch it record your favorite 2573 01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:25,920 shows pause and rewind live tv even skip 2574 01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:28,400 the commercials watch local channels too 2575 01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:31,040 at just 19.99 what are you waiting for 2576 01:34:33,950 --> 01:34:33,040 pull out your major credit or debit card 2577 01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:33,960 call 2578 01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:37,199 1-855-905-my tv 1-855-905 2579 01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:40,480 my tv say goodbye to the cable guy cut 2580 01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:43,760 costs and get more 1-855-905 2581 01:34:58,790 --> 01:34:57,270 hi it's grant cameron from presidential 2582 01:35:01,189 --> 01:34:58,800 ufo.com 2583 01:35:09,110 --> 01:35:01,199 you're listening to the paracast the 2584 01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:10,870 or the other show there is nothing wrong 2585 01:35:14,470 --> 01:35:13,040 with your tv set we are controlling 2586 01:35:16,070 --> 01:35:14,480 transmission i don't want to get into 2587 01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:16,080 that 2588 01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:17,440 now we're in the outer limits with this 2589 01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:20,080 one ryan you are absolutely correct 2590 01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:22,000 you cannot assume 2591 01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:24,400 love and light space brothers here to 2592 01:35:27,830 --> 01:35:26,159 solve all our problems 2593 01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:27,840 we are dealing with something that does 2594 01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:30,080 have a mercurial trickster-ish type 2595 01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:32,800 personality that can be fatal 2596 01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:34,880 absolutely can be fatal and 2597 01:35:38,629 --> 01:35:36,480 i mean whether you're becoming a grease 2598 01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:38,639 spot instantaneously like what happened 2599 01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:41,280 to the dogs or more of the 2600 01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:42,960 slow painful death 2601 01:35:48,790 --> 01:35:45,040 it is occurring in the basin 2602 01:35:50,629 --> 01:35:48,800 i recently was able to speak with 2603 01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:50,639 one of the higher ups over that was 2604 01:35:55,270 --> 01:35:53,199 working with bass at that time 2605 01:35:57,350 --> 01:35:55,280 when i say uh working with bass he was 2606 01:35:59,110 --> 01:35:57,360 not a part of bass 2607 01:36:01,750 --> 01:35:59,120 that's uh bass is 2608 01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:01,760 what nid's evolved into 2609 01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:04,480 acronym for nids but uh he was actually 2610 01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:05,920 working uh 2611 01:36:09,510 --> 01:36:08,000 with the government um i don't want to 2612 01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:09,520 reveal too much about his position or 2613 01:36:12,550 --> 01:36:10,800 anything else but the government was 2614 01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:12,560 working directly with the bass they had 2615 01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:14,719 contracted the work that was going on at 2616 01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:16,560 the property 2617 01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,760 he's uh 2618 01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:19,679 courses sworn to oaths and everything 2619 01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:21,679 else so he's very little he can share 2620 01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:23,440 with me but uh 2621 01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:26,480 he did intimate to me that uh whatever 2622 01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:29,920 is out there is a concern for the us 2623 01:36:32,950 --> 01:36:31,360 government it's uh 2624 01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:32,960 it's considered a threat to the us 2625 01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:34,320 government 2626 01:36:37,510 --> 01:36:35,760 um 2627 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:37,520 and it's concerning to our government 2628 01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:40,000 and also that the 2629 01:36:44,149 --> 01:36:42,639 locals are coming down with high rates 2630 01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:44,159 of cancer 2631 01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:46,719 and that those exposed to the light are 2632 01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:48,080 also 2633 01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,000 having immediate 2634 01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:52,719 radiation i guess poisoning symptoms 2635 01:36:55,990 --> 01:36:54,560 all right this is an interesting claim 2636 01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:56,000 here i want to get more information 2637 01:36:59,910 --> 01:36:58,320 about it and by the way that buzzing you 2638 01:37:02,629 --> 01:36:59,920 hear occasionally 2639 01:37:04,229 --> 01:37:02,639 that's ryan's mobile phone 2640 01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:04,239 where someone's trying to call so it 2641 01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:06,880 buzzes rather than rings okay he's using 2642 01:37:11,109 --> 01:37:09,520 that for a skype connection all right so 2643 01:37:13,109 --> 01:37:11,119 if people are getting sick is that 2644 01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:13,119 documented anywhere and when you say 2645 01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:15,440 that of course i think of the situation 2646 01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:18,400 over at the rendelsham forest ufo case 2647 01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:20,560 where we have john burroughs who got 2648 01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:22,639 sick after that so in this case here 2649 01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:24,880 when you say people are getting sick 2650 01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,440 suggesting that do we have names dates 2651 01:37:32,709 --> 01:37:29,440 places something 2652 01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:32,719 not a yeah again i'm just a guy who was 2653 01:37:35,830 --> 01:37:34,880 fascinated by the topic who got thrown 2654 01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:35,840 into this 2655 01:37:40,310 --> 01:37:37,040 um at the end of the day i'm not a 2656 01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:42,550 statistician yes 2657 01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:44,239 but uh 2658 01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:45,840 i am uh 2659 01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:48,800 i'm a collector and purveyor of stories 2660 01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:50,480 and this one 2661 01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:51,840 not only that but i've made uh 2662 01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:53,520 relationships with the neighbors 2663 01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:56,400 surrounding the ranch and one of my 2664 01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:58,000 closest relations 2665 01:38:00,950 --> 01:38:00,080 that i had formed was with charles 2666 01:38:02,709 --> 01:38:00,960 nguyen 2667 01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:02,719 who with directly to the west of the 2668 01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:05,760 ranch owns a lot of land out there 2669 01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:07,119 and uh 2670 01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:09,119 charles had a close encounter that had 2671 01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:10,560 occurred to him 2672 01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:13,440 early 2000s where he encountered one of 2673 01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:16,000 these balls of light a real large one 2674 01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:17,920 zoomed right up to him that he believes 2675 01:38:27,109 --> 01:38:19,360 uh 2676 01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:27,119 of cancer and is now he died he's dead 2677 01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:29,199 right now unfortunately a great person 2678 01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:31,920 too but uh right up into his death 2679 01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:33,520 he said no one would listen to him but 2680 01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,920 he believed that encounter is what is 2681 01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:38,159 what had caused his illness and all the 2682 01:38:41,669 --> 01:38:39,520 different forms of cancer that he had 2683 01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:41,679 contracted he was he said he was health 2684 01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:44,480 healthy as a horse prior to that and uh 2685 01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:46,960 immediately after suffered all forms of 2686 01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:49,679 depression and and different 2687 01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:51,199 cases of cancer 2688 01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:53,280 uh there's also john to the east he you 2689 01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:56,480 know it's a neighbor to the east and i 2690 01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:59,199 don't quote me but i've heard from his 2691 01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:01,199 neighbors and other locals that he also 2692 01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:03,600 has a cancer as well 2693 01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:06,080 none of these are young people but uh it 2694 01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:07,360 was just 2695 01:39:11,750 --> 01:39:08,960 the rates of 2696 01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:11,760 cancer in that region and depression and 2697 01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:14,639 suicide are off the charts 2698 01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:16,719 all right you're making a claim here a 2699 01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:19,119 factual claim off the charts ryan how do 2700 01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:20,960 we know that do we have records do you 2701 01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:24,719 have newspaper accounts anything 2702 01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:26,560 i don't i don't i don't want any of the 2703 01:39:29,590 --> 01:39:27,679 stats 2704 01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:29,600 um i i really think i 2705 01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:31,360 need someone uh 2706 01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:33,520 a lot more experience in that field to 2707 01:39:37,990 --> 01:39:36,000 do the footwork for me 2708 01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:38,000 well just look up rates of environmental 2709 01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:40,800 cancers on indian reservations and the 2710 01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:43,119 you know the area around the hickoria 2711 01:39:47,270 --> 01:39:45,360 apache reservation dolce will come up 2712 01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:47,280 high on the charts now you're saying 2713 01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:49,280 that there's possible uh correlations 2714 01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:51,199 with the uinta basin in the in the ute 2715 01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,880 indians i think that would be a really 2716 01:39:57,109 --> 01:39:54,719 worthwhile study for one of our 2717 01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:57,119 listeners or ryan or even myself when i 2718 01:40:03,750 --> 01:40:00,000 have some extra time to look into 2719 01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:03,760 because of project gas buggy in 1966 2720 01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:06,320 when the government in el paso 2721 01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:07,119 oil 2722 01:40:13,430 --> 01:40:10,719 exploded a 27 megaton nuclear weapon 4 2723 01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:13,440 000 feet below dulce just a few miles 2724 01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:14,880 southwest 2725 01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:16,960 uh it probably leached into the ground 2726 01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:18,239 water and we have high rates of 2727 01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:19,760 environmental cancers 2728 01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:21,119 what we're talking about here with you 2729 01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:23,280 in a basin may be different 2730 01:40:26,790 --> 01:40:25,119 it seems to be more select and i would 2731 01:40:30,149 --> 01:40:26,800 think that uh 2732 01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:30,159 a study of that particular county 2733 01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,400 uh in terms of environmental rates of 2734 01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:34,880 cancer is readily available online so 2735 01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:36,080 that's something that you could possibly 2736 01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:37,520 look into ryan 2737 01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:39,920 when we were busy throwing off nuclear 2738 01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:42,320 bombs in the 40s and 50s 2739 01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:44,960 were any tests done within any distance 2740 01:40:48,629 --> 01:40:46,239 of these places 2741 01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:48,639 i'm told steve george had a bunch of 2742 01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:50,560 bums and ordinances that were exploded 2743 01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:51,920 up there that 2744 01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:54,480 locals right after the bombs had 2745 01:40:58,870 --> 01:40:57,520 been tested i guess locals had described 2746 01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:58,880 silvery 2747 01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,880 web kind of things that had gone all 2748 01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:02,159 over the trees 2749 01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:03,679 if you've ever heard of that before like 2750 01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:05,520 fire glass and i think they even sued 2751 01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:07,040 didn't they they successfully sued the 2752 01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:08,159 government 2753 01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:10,480 i have no idea you remember that story 2754 01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:11,520 it seemed to 2755 01:41:14,629 --> 01:41:13,199 recall that 2756 01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:14,639 that's some uh 2757 01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,000 40 50 minutes from skinwalker ranch so 2758 01:41:21,590 --> 01:41:20,159 maybe there's a correlation there but 2759 01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:21,600 but what was fascinating the reason i 2760 01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:24,239 bring that up is is i'd always heard i'd 2761 01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:26,560 always heard those rumors again of the 2762 01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:30,159 locals uh the high suicide rates 2763 01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:32,400 cases of depression and especially uh 2764 01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:35,280 cancer and then to hear this from from 2765 01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:36,400 someone i 2766 01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,040 i believe uh check out his credentials 2767 01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:40,960 someone i believe is higher up with the 2768 01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:43,760 military confirming that to me 2769 01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:45,119 uh 2770 01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:49,600 again these are not our state loving 2771 01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:50,960 space brothers that are going to bring 2772 01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:52,560 enlightenment and everything else this 2773 01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:54,239 is uh something that's concerning our 2774 01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:55,920 own government 2775 01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:58,159 now that's an interesting question here 2776 01:42:02,149 --> 01:41:59,679 are we seeing here when we look at these 2777 01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:02,159 events any evidence of some kind of of 2778 01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:04,719 government interactions in terms of 2779 01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:08,000 doing various and sundry kinds of tests 2780 01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,000 bigelow would bring out all sorts of his 2781 01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:12,239 various uh space equipment out to the 2782 01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,639 ranch from time to time and how so 2783 01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:16,560 different atmosphere 2784 01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:18,080 he had he would bring machines that 2785 01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:19,280 would 2786 01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:22,080 different atmosphere changes and 2787 01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:23,520 i don't know most of his tests they 2788 01:42:25,669 --> 01:42:24,800 actually were pretty 2789 01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:25,679 pretty 2790 01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:26,400 low 2791 01:42:31,030 --> 01:42:29,280 not very advanced 2792 01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:31,040 i just know one time he brought out this 2793 01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:33,600 multi-million dollar machine that was 2794 01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:35,920 supposed to test all sorts of the soil 2795 01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:36,880 and the 2796 01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:41,520 different things that i have known quite 2797 01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:43,920 exactly what he was looking for but uh 2798 01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,280 i guess whatever he was trying to test 2799 01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:47,440 the machine broke on site 2800 01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:50,960 they had tested uh extensively in nevada 2801 01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:52,320 everything had worked flawlessly but 2802 01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,840 when they brought to the ranch it kept 2803 01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:55,679 uh it kept breaking was that a 2804 01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:57,040 coincidence was that part of the 2805 01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:58,960 phenomena i don't know 2806 01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:00,400 but i do know some of the tests that he 2807 01:43:04,229 --> 01:43:02,080 would run is 2808 01:43:06,629 --> 01:43:04,239 there's really low there's not a lot of 2809 01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:06,639 sensationalism to them he would have uh 2810 01:43:10,709 --> 01:43:08,480 he would plant beans 2811 01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:10,719 at uh on the ranch and at various places 2812 01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,719 on the ranch and then also also at the 2813 01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:15,280 exact same time plant beans uh and watch 2814 01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:17,600 the growth rates and at different places 2815 01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:19,440 around utah you know all at the same 2816 01:43:21,910 --> 01:43:20,560 time 2817 01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:21,920 and everything that had grown on the 2818 01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:23,440 ranch these beans as they would start to 2819 01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:25,119 grow would actually wither and die or 2820 01:43:29,750 --> 01:43:27,679 not grow at all versus all the locations 2821 01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:29,760 where he had grown a 2822 01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:31,280 life 2823 01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:33,440 to me was 2824 01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:36,239 not the most advanced uh test days 2825 01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:37,920 pretty really well i mean it has some 2826 01:43:41,350 --> 01:43:39,199 has some 2827 01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:41,360 some gravitas to it i wouldn't want to 2828 01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:43,119 be a real estate agent trying to sell 2829 01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:46,000 farmland in that area if that's the case 2830 01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,239 maybe that ties into what what's being 2831 01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:49,920 examined out there and then these these 2832 01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:52,159 rates of cancer and maybe there is some 2833 01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,000 larger health concern 2834 01:43:58,229 --> 01:43:56,400 um it is public knowledge that the the 2835 01:44:00,629 --> 01:43:58,239 fort du chain that you went to basin 2836 01:44:03,189 --> 01:44:00,639 area has i think the highest or the 2837 01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:03,199 highest ozone rate in the entire world 2838 01:44:07,189 --> 01:44:05,760 is is the claim that i've come across 2839 01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:07,199 and i know they've the government's come 2840 01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,960 in and done all sorts of studies as to 2841 01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:10,800 why and i believe they currently still 2842 01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:14,159 don't know why the ozone is uh so whack 2843 01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:16,480 in that region 2844 01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:17,199 so 2845 01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:18,880 yeah i'm a little confused here now 2846 01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:21,119 you're saying that that region has 2847 01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:22,159 has 2848 01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:27,910 yes 2849 01:44:32,709 --> 01:44:30,000 really hmm interesting i i've never 2850 01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:32,719 heard that because because just south is 2851 01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,280 south and slightly east of there is is 2852 01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:37,119 some of the regions that have uh the 2853 01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:38,639 most methane 2854 01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:41,600 uh attributed to it uh if 2855 01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:42,800 isn't it uh 2856 01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:44,080 correct me if i'm wrong right around 2857 01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:46,000 farmington i'm sure one of our listeners 2858 01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:48,560 will uh correct me if i'm wrong here but 2859 01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:50,239 uh didn't they i've just seen a series 2860 01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:51,600 of articles within the last three or 2861 01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:53,679 four months that there's a huge hot spot 2862 01:45:01,109 --> 01:44:54,480 of 2863 01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:01,119 which again as the crow flies is not 2864 01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:03,280 that far from uh you know the area we're 2865 01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:04,800 talking about around the uinta basin 2866 01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:06,239 we're talking what uh 2867 01:45:10,790 --> 01:45:09,040 a couple hundred miles maybe 250 miles 2868 01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:10,800 let's do our break here 2869 01:45:15,669 --> 01:45:13,360 and then we'll figure this all out again 2870 01:45:18,310 --> 01:45:15,679 talking about skinwalker ranch and 2871 01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,320 environs with ryan skinner author of two 2872 01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:20,400 new books in the subject with gene and 2873 01:45:32,709 --> 01:45:29,830 independently leading the way for the 2874 01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:32,719 nation compelling talk for every 2875 01:45:39,430 --> 01:45:37,920 political persuasion we are g c n 2876 01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:39,440 this is dan pillow do you have the irs 2877 01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,280 money you can't pay are tax debts 2878 01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:43,199 crippling you i've defended people from 2879 01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:45,520 the irs for over 30 years i've helped 2880 01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,600 thousands and i can help you too i wrote 2881 01:45:50,709 --> 01:45:49,040 the book on irs settlement and i'm 2882 01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:50,719 telling you there's no such thing as a 2883 01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:54,400 hopeless case call 834 no tax to finally 2884 01:45:58,149 --> 01:45:56,639 get free of irs debt with the irs's new 2885 01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:58,159 programs there's never been a better 2886 01:46:04,790 --> 01:46:01,040 time to solve your problem call 834 no 2887 01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:04,800 tax that's 800 34 no tax on my website 2888 01:46:08,870 --> 01:46:06,960 danpilla.com 2889 01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,880 we the people grow cotton wheat fabric 2890 01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:10,800 engrave ink embeds strips and fibers to 2891 01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:12,480 protect from counterfeit then carting to 2892 01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:14,239 a private bank having it led back at 2893 01:46:18,149 --> 01:46:16,320 interest forcing taxes to service debt 2894 01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:18,159 this capitalism or was jefferson correct 2895 01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:19,760 when stating a central bank issuing the 2896 01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:21,360 public currency is a greater menace to 2897 01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:22,639 the liberties of the people than a 2898 01:46:25,669 --> 01:46:24,320 standing army hi ted anderson i'm 2899 01:46:27,590 --> 01:46:25,679 placing a free silver dollar in a book 2900 01:46:29,550 --> 01:46:27,600 that explains our monetary system call 2901 01:46:31,669 --> 01:46:29,560 for your copy 2902 01:46:33,390 --> 01:46:31,679 800-686-2237 it's time to understand the 2903 01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:33,400 system call 2904 01:46:43,510 --> 01:46:41,830 are you suffering from ep the symptoms 2905 01:46:45,270 --> 01:46:43,520 include fraudulent charges to your 2906 01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:45,280 credit card your subway card says it's 2907 01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:46,719 empty but you bought it yesterday 2908 01:46:50,550 --> 01:46:48,480 someone's been in your hotel room but 2909 01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:50,560 the desk clerk says they only show you 2910 01:46:55,750 --> 01:46:53,280 entering the room these are signs of ep 2911 01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:55,760 electronic pickpocketing payment cards 2912 01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:58,320 transit cards even hotel room keys use a 2913 01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:00,159 radio chip so you can just wave your 2914 01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:02,239 card at the register the turn style or 2915 01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:03,760 your 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security comfort and crowds and 2930 01:47:35,830 --> 01:47:34,320 euphoria if you experience these 2931 01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:35,840 emotions immediately inform your friends 2932 01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:37,600 and family about id stronghold.com so 2933 01:47:42,290 --> 01:47:46,149 [Music] 2934 01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:49,350 welcome back to the paracast the gold 2935 01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:53,040 standard of paranormal radio 2936 01:47:57,670 --> 01:47:54,320 and now 2937 01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:57,680 here's gene steinberg 2938 01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:02,870 i was mentioning earlier one of our 2939 01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:04,880 listeners had suggested that we have 2940 01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:06,880 listeners record the words the power 2941 01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:08,080 cast 2942 01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:10,480 with sound effects without sound effects 2943 01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:13,360 altering their voices and maybe we run 2944 01:48:16,709 --> 01:48:14,960 them occasionally 2945 01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:16,719 and those who 2946 01:48:21,990 --> 01:48:19,440 do get theirs run we give them a prize 2947 01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,000 of some sort i need some help here give 2948 01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:24,080 me some help 2949 01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:25,920 right chris is in need of help 2950 01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:28,159 unfortunately there is no treatment 2951 01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:30,400 for that condition well since i stopped 2952 01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:32,639 smoking i can't get that really gravelly 2953 01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:34,080 the burger 2954 01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:36,000 it's really tough for me now so i need 2955 01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:37,520 some help folks 2956 01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:39,760 oh yeah that sounds good 2957 01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:41,600 let's give chris some help 2958 01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:42,639 all right 2959 01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:44,800 let me ask you ryan all this stuff 2960 01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:47,440 that's going on in and around skinwalker 2961 01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:48,560 ranch 2962 01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:50,639 what can we do to interest scientists to 2963 01:48:55,109 --> 01:48:53,119 go take a look see to see what's going 2964 01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:55,119 on because otherwise it's just anecdotal 2965 01:48:58,310 --> 01:48:57,280 stuff 2966 01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:58,320 yeah 2967 01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:01,280 i don't know blackmail bigelow 2968 01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:04,080 yeah as if that's gonna work 2969 01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:06,880 i mean bigelow really did develop a team 2970 01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:08,239 of some of the best scientists in the 2971 01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:11,280 nation's phenomena so how can we get how 2972 01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:13,360 can we get scientists off of his payroll 2973 01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:17,440 on this topic is a good question 2974 01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:20,960 there's there's neighboring properties 2975 01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:22,800 but 2976 01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:24,159 that's really a question i have no idea 2977 01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:26,239 how to answer 2978 01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:28,639 well i think that's great you know uh 2979 01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:30,320 come up with some sort of kickstarter 2980 01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:32,159 campaign to come up with a big 2981 01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,400 chunk of change and 2982 01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:36,159 talk to one of his neighbors uh maybe 2983 01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:38,080 just to the south of him and say hey we 2984 01:49:42,229 --> 01:49:39,920 got all this money we want to hire some 2985 01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:42,239 scientists to come in and do you know 2986 01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:43,840 plant some gear 2987 01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:46,480 do periodic studies uh pay you to be 2988 01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:48,480 extra vigilant i have relationships 2989 01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:50,239 formed with a lot of the locals uh ones 2990 01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:52,000 i haven't even mentioned yet right next 2991 01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:54,320 to the property so we do have land 2992 01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,639 available and the proximity of the ranch 2993 01:50:02,229 --> 01:49:59,119 is more than madness well let's 2994 01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:02,239 let's uh you know let's let's do binary 2995 01:50:06,229 --> 01:50:05,040 uh data collection and and then uh you 2996 01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:06,239 know 2997 01:50:11,590 --> 01:50:10,080 shame uh bigelow into comparing data 2998 01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:11,600 you know i think that that's a great 2999 01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:13,520 idea jeez i mean with you know the way 3000 01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:15,520 that you know crowdfunding works uh 3001 01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:19,119 today i mean something as as sexy and as 3002 01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:21,760 sensational as exciting as skinwalker 3003 01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:22,719 ranch 3004 01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:27,840 right next door and have a you know a 3005 01:50:33,750 --> 01:50:31,199 public uh you know transparent public 3006 01:50:35,590 --> 01:50:33,760 uh data gathering uh effort that uh 3007 01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:35,600 would shame him into sharing his data i 3008 01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:37,520 think that's a great idea gene where you 3009 01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:39,840 been on my life you know what i give you 3010 01:50:44,629 --> 01:50:42,239 these ideas i don't charge for them 3011 01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:44,639 there's no license fee we just have to 3012 01:50:49,590 --> 01:50:47,440 organize the kickstarter or a gofundme 3013 01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:49,600 campaign and see what happens and i 3014 01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:51,440 can't see where bigelow can do anything 3015 01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:53,440 about it because it does not 3016 01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:56,560 infringe on his property that he owns 3017 01:50:59,590 --> 01:50:58,080 what he can do is come up with a chunk 3018 01:51:01,830 --> 01:50:59,600 of change that's bigger than the chunk 3019 01:51:05,030 --> 01:51:01,840 we're offering 3020 01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:05,040 then everybody wins except for us 3021 01:51:09,830 --> 01:51:07,119 i've been in contact with uh the people 3022 01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:09,840 over at the helsinki lights project i 3023 01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:11,040 think it's in 3024 01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:12,960 finland or norway 3025 01:51:17,590 --> 01:51:15,520 it has dallin but uh we we won't uh 3026 01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:17,600 chide you too much on your uh 3027 01:51:21,669 --> 01:51:19,040 your faux pas 3028 01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:21,679 they're doing a a video project where 3029 01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:23,920 they're constantly monitoring everything 3030 01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:25,119 that's going on i've been doing it for 3031 01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:27,280 30 years yeah um 3032 01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,960 i'm also having the san luis valley 3033 01:51:32,070 --> 01:51:30,639 camera project i'm having a hard enough 3034 01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:32,080 time just getting my 3035 01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:34,560 proverbial dung together 3036 01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:36,639 uh for that particular project which is 3037 01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:38,880 is progressing but uh 3038 01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:41,040 but yeah i mean this is this is actually 3039 01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:42,800 an exciting idea 3040 01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:44,560 get one of the ranchers hey you know on 3041 01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:45,840 your off time 3042 01:51:51,189 --> 01:51:48,159 manage a bunch of scientific gear work 3043 01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:51,199 with some high-powered consultants who 3044 01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:52,960 shall not be named 3045 01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:54,800 and we will uh 3046 01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:56,800 you know try to correlate some data with 3047 01:52:01,750 --> 01:52:00,159 uh with old uh biggie and the boys 3048 01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:01,760 the question i would have there though 3049 01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:04,960 is even if you offered to share with him 3050 01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:07,520 would he accept that invitation 3051 01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:09,679 well probably not but you know at least 3052 01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:13,679 uh show him that we have initiative and 3053 01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:14,880 you know we're not just into 3054 01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:17,280 sensationalizing these stories and 3055 01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:18,880 and into you know 3056 01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:21,280 creating uh cultural mythos but we're 3057 01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:24,159 actually into attempting to you know 3058 01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:26,719 go beyond head scratching into the into 3059 01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:30,320 the realm of of of pure science i mean 3060 01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:31,760 to me that would be 3061 01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:33,360 more of an inducement to get him to 3062 01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:36,320 share data than it would be to you know 3063 01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:39,440 uh just continue uh sensationalizing uh 3064 01:52:43,669 --> 01:52:41,599 the whole thing as 3065 01:52:45,109 --> 01:52:43,679 as rightfully it should be it should be 3066 01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:45,119 shared with the public i think this is 3067 01:52:49,830 --> 01:52:47,840 one of the most important cases ever 3068 01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:49,840 and i've always said that and i always 3069 01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:52,560 will say that until i'm proven 3070 01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:55,040 another case comes along that's better 3071 01:52:59,270 --> 01:52:57,040 but i really think that this 3072 01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:59,280 is an opportunity to 3073 01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:00,719 conduct 3074 01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:03,679 you know valid science and not give 3075 01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:05,679 progress reports every two months about 3076 01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:07,440 what we're doing and what our results 3077 01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:09,119 are but actually come up with a body of 3078 01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:10,960 data that can be published for peer 3079 01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:14,080 review and show bigelow the way show him 3080 01:53:17,270 --> 01:53:15,360 how to do 3081 01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:17,280 what he's been attempting to do for 3082 01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:20,800 almost what geez 20 years now almost 18 3083 01:53:25,669 --> 01:53:22,639 years the guy's been up there i mean 3084 01:53:28,149 --> 01:53:25,679 hello you got to have something 3085 01:53:29,189 --> 01:53:28,159 i mean pony up or uh you know sell the 3086 01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:29,199 place 3087 01:53:33,430 --> 01:53:31,360 he'll do what he wants to do 3088 01:53:34,709 --> 01:53:33,440 yeah but if we do what we want to do and 3089 01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:34,719 actually you know conduct some 3090 01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:37,760 experiments and and get gather some data 3091 01:53:43,270 --> 01:53:40,800 maybe that'll shame him into uh you know 3092 01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:43,280 coalescing his efforts with ours 3093 01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:45,920 let me ask you something ryan skinner in 3094 01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:47,199 your new books 3095 01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:49,360 putting them together collecting all 3096 01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:52,960 this material did anything surprise you 3097 01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:55,440 things that you expected or believed 3098 01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:57,360 about skinwalker ranch that turned out 3099 01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:59,040 to be different 3100 01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:00,719 i'm just amazed by some of the stories 3101 01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:02,639 that i've collected 3102 01:54:07,030 --> 01:54:05,119 over the years from the various four 3103 01:54:09,030 --> 01:54:07,040 corners region 3104 01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:09,040 a lot of the 3105 01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:13,679 these old people that are seen 3106 01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:16,800 uh dressing up like skinwalkers or or 3107 01:54:21,669 --> 01:54:19,920 i guess once the skinwalker is 3108 01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:21,679 revealed or takes its human form it's 3109 01:54:27,830 --> 01:54:24,400 it's commonly seen as this uh old ending 3110 01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:27,840 form which which has been reported also 3111 01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:30,000 in in one particularly 3112 01:54:36,310 --> 01:54:33,360 dramatic encounter on skinwalker ranch 3113 01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:36,320 um also that these the skin walkers 3114 01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:38,159 themselves seem to be bound by some sort 3115 01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:39,840 of uh 3116 01:54:45,030 --> 01:54:42,639 rules uh they commonly go up to the 3117 01:54:46,709 --> 01:54:45,040 sides of homes and they're knocking 3118 01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:46,719 knocking on the windows knocking on the 3119 01:54:51,189 --> 01:54:49,199 doors scratching the walls 3120 01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:51,199 they seem more than capable of of 3121 01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:53,840 breaking into a into a house or home yet 3122 01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:54,800 uh 3123 01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:56,320 it's almost as if they're waiting to be 3124 01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:58,639 invited in 3125 01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:01,199 by that that unseen invisible barrier 3126 01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:02,880 between us and them 3127 01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:04,960 so what is it like a vampire if you 3128 01:55:10,229 --> 01:55:07,920 invite them in you invite trouble 3129 01:55:11,830 --> 01:55:10,239 with the black-eyed children 3130 01:55:14,229 --> 01:55:11,840 it sounds a lot like the black-eyed 3131 01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:14,239 children kind of events 3132 01:55:17,830 --> 01:55:16,159 well none of the stories i've collected 3133 01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:17,840 uh they actually do they actually invite 3134 01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:19,280 the skinwalker in so i don't know what 3135 01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:21,360 happens should you invite one in i don't 3136 01:55:25,990 --> 01:55:23,760 i don't think uh anybody would want to 3137 01:55:28,229 --> 01:55:26,000 honey invite a man ask him for cliff 3138 01:55:29,830 --> 01:55:28,239 they want some coffee 3139 01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:29,840 that's right 3140 01:55:37,750 --> 01:55:31,920 oh i don't know even going to 3141 01:55:43,109 --> 01:55:39,750 that stopped the show dead in its tracks 3142 01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:44,550 all right 3143 01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:47,440 so basically ryan skinner 3144 01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:49,520 to sum things up and we've got some more 3145 01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:52,000 to go and some questions from listeners 3146 01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:54,000 you feel that we're interacting with 3147 01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:55,920 another dimension and that's why we have 3148 01:56:01,910 --> 01:55:59,599 all these wacky things happening 3149 01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:01,920 yeah yeah that's exactly what i think 3150 01:56:06,790 --> 01:56:04,000 some sort of 3151 01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:06,800 interdimensional trickster-like entity 3152 01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,400 that is 3153 01:56:12,790 --> 01:56:10,400 a foreign intelligence 3154 01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:15,189 causing health concerns to not only the 3155 01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:17,199 local people with uh 3156 01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:19,679 with a mission or objective that's yet 3157 01:56:25,669 --> 01:56:22,239 unknown to us why they're there and why 3158 01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:27,350 that's what that's what's always puzzled 3159 01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:30,080 me is why that particular location 3160 01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:32,400 whether it's skinwalker ranch 3161 01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:35,679 uh areas around the san luis valley 3162 01:56:41,189 --> 01:56:38,560 around white sands around the black 3163 01:56:43,669 --> 01:56:41,199 hills around mount shasta i mean you 3164 01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:43,679 could just start you know going through 3165 01:56:48,390 --> 01:56:46,000 a litany of areas that seem to have a 3166 01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:48,400 predominance of activity 3167 01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:50,159 why those areas 3168 01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:52,080 have have you ever really 3169 01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:53,840 you know thought about that 3170 01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:56,000 looked into some of the you know 3171 01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:57,280 possible 3172 01:57:02,390 --> 01:57:00,400 geophysical properties of the area um 3173 01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:02,400 how about some of the legends uh how 3174 01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:04,960 much uh headway have you had digging 3175 01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:06,960 into some of the mythology of the area 3176 01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:10,880 why why is it a taboo area to the utes 3177 01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,000 i know you've covered some of this 3178 01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:14,239 material in in in your first couple of 3179 01:57:17,350 --> 01:57:15,760 books but 3180 01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:17,360 what is your gut feeling about it why do 3181 01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:18,719 you think it's centered there or 3182 01:57:23,830 --> 01:57:20,800 tethered or elite you know on a leash as 3183 01:57:26,070 --> 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send it to news theparacast.com 3284 02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:52,000 that's news at the paracast.com 3285 02:01:56,310 --> 02:01:53,920 and don't forget to visit our famous 3286 02:02:00,709 --> 02:01:56,320 paracast community forums at 3287 02:02:05,589 --> 02:02:03,350 yes why are these events centered in 3288 02:02:07,589 --> 02:02:05,599 those particular regions of the 3289 02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:07,599 country mount shasta 3290 02:02:13,189 --> 02:02:10,400 and skinwalker ranch area 3291 02:02:14,470 --> 02:02:13,199 four corners all that stuff strange 3292 02:02:16,149 --> 02:02:14,480 we have something else that's not 3293 02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:16,159 strange and that's to tell you we have a 3294 02:02:19,510 --> 02:02:18,159 free book we want to give you it's 3295 02:02:22,790 --> 02:02:19,520 stalking the tricksters from chris 3296 02:02:24,790 --> 02:02:22,800 o'brien generously donated to anyone who 3297 02:02:27,870 --> 02:02:24,800 orders a one year or five year 3298 02:02:32,229 --> 02:02:27,880 subscription to the powercast plus go to 3299 02:02:36,390 --> 02:02:34,390 for one year or five years you get the 3300 02:02:39,750 --> 02:02:36,400 ad free version of the show higher 3301 02:02:41,750 --> 02:02:39,760 quality audio the exclusive after the 3302 02:02:44,470 --> 02:02:41,760 power cast podcast we'll have more to 3303 02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:44,480 say on these things in that show 3304 02:02:49,109 --> 02:02:46,719 that's plus plus.powercast.com 3305 02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:49,119 ryan skinner wrote a couple more books 3306 02:02:54,149 --> 02:02:51,920 about the skinwalker ranch 3307 02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:54,159 that we want you to check out 3308 02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:55,440 one of them 3309 02:03:00,310 --> 02:02:56,560 is called 3310 02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:00,320 skinwalker ranch the ufo farm and the 3311 02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:03,520 other one is tales of the skinwalker a 3312 02:03:08,390 --> 02:03:05,440 collection of stories from skinwalker 3313 02:03:09,669 --> 02:03:08,400 ranch and beyond so ryan chris asked a 3314 02:03:11,589 --> 02:03:09,679 question about 3315 02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:11,599 why are these things centered on these 3316 02:03:15,990 --> 02:03:13,360 specific regions 3317 02:03:18,790 --> 02:03:16,000 yeah what what makes the area unique a 3318 02:03:20,390 --> 02:03:18,800 couple commonalities jumped out at me at 3319 02:03:22,629 --> 02:03:20,400 least is uh 3320 02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:22,639 it has those the the ridgeline and these 3321 02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:23,760 mesas 3322 02:03:26,950 --> 02:03:25,840 it's i've noticed there's from all the 3323 02:03:28,950 --> 02:03:26,960 stories i've collected there's always 3324 02:03:30,950 --> 02:03:28,960 been a high occurrence of strangeness 3325 02:03:33,350 --> 02:03:30,960 around the mazes typically around the 3326 02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:33,360 edge of the base of these mazes 3327 02:03:37,990 --> 02:03:34,960 and the lonely 3328 02:03:40,310 --> 02:03:38,000 isolated people that live among them 3329 02:03:43,350 --> 02:03:40,320 i think the the desolation of the area 3330 02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:43,360 itself contributes to this this is not 3331 02:03:51,270 --> 02:03:49,750 the basin i think at least 3332 02:03:53,510 --> 02:03:51,280 the only place in the entire world that 3333 02:03:55,510 --> 02:03:53,520 has the mineral gilsonite in it i don't 3334 02:03:57,189 --> 02:03:55,520 know what the relationship with knight 3335 02:03:58,709 --> 02:03:57,199 is but there may be 3336 02:04:00,229 --> 02:03:58,719 there may be something to that that 3337 02:04:02,709 --> 02:04:00,239 angle as well 3338 02:04:03,990 --> 02:04:02,719 and uh the basin itself being being one 3339 02:04:05,510 --> 02:04:04,000 giant bowl 3340 02:04:08,390 --> 02:04:05,520 i don't know maybe it's concentrating 3341 02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:08,400 energy or maybe some sort of uh 3342 02:04:13,189 --> 02:04:10,400 the membrane between our our world and 3343 02:04:15,350 --> 02:04:13,199 the next or this parallel dimension thin 3344 02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:15,360 what is gilsoni uh that's news to me 3345 02:04:19,109 --> 02:04:17,119 what i'm not familiar with that that 3346 02:04:21,270 --> 02:04:19,119 mineral yeah it's kind of a it's kind of 3347 02:04:22,790 --> 02:04:21,280 a boring obviously kind of a boring 3348 02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:22,800 mineral or i guess 3349 02:04:25,990 --> 02:04:24,480 if you're a scientist it's exciting but 3350 02:04:27,910 --> 02:04:26,000 it's used for a lot of different uh 3351 02:04:29,669 --> 02:04:27,920 industrial processes i mean nothing 3352 02:04:31,750 --> 02:04:29,679 really that that jumped out at me as 3353 02:04:33,830 --> 02:04:31,760 being spectacular but uh 3354 02:04:36,629 --> 02:04:33,840 but it is the only place you can you can 3355 02:04:38,550 --> 02:04:36,639 mine for it is in the basin believe in 3356 02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:38,560 the entire world 3357 02:04:43,109 --> 02:04:40,320 which which is very unique in that 3358 02:04:46,709 --> 02:04:44,870 this is i can't remember the property 3359 02:04:48,629 --> 02:04:46,719 about it that makes it unique but it 3360 02:04:50,629 --> 02:04:48,639 just it didn't stand out 3361 02:04:53,189 --> 02:04:50,639 so you think if we took actual readings 3362 02:04:55,109 --> 02:04:53,199 of these areas we'd find properties that 3363 02:04:57,189 --> 02:04:55,119 are clearly identified 3364 02:04:59,830 --> 02:04:57,199 that can be repeated in terms of the 3365 02:05:02,709 --> 02:04:59,840 measurements and therefore tell us why 3366 02:05:04,229 --> 02:05:02,719 it may attract strange stuff 3367 02:05:05,350 --> 02:05:04,239 well i'm always looking for the next big 3368 02:05:07,270 --> 02:05:05,360 hot spot 3369 02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:07,280 and if you can find uh some sort of 3370 02:05:11,510 --> 02:05:09,360 geological feature that that makes this 3371 02:05:14,149 --> 02:05:11,520 attractive to the entities 3372 02:05:16,310 --> 02:05:14,159 um in in theory i could pinpoint another 3373 02:05:17,430 --> 02:05:16,320 location where there isn't guards that 3374 02:05:19,750 --> 02:05:17,440 are ready to 3375 02:05:23,030 --> 02:05:19,760 put me into the dirt at any moment 3376 02:05:24,550 --> 02:05:23,040 where i can conduct re research uh 3377 02:05:25,750 --> 02:05:24,560 without being 3378 02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:25,760 you know 3379 02:05:28,550 --> 02:05:27,280 without being bothered by or looking 3380 02:05:31,109 --> 02:05:28,560 over my shoulder for a guard at any 3381 02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:31,119 moment that's what i'm looking for next 3382 02:05:35,030 --> 02:05:32,639 and there are other hot spots like 3383 02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:35,040 bradshaw ranch there's other there's a 3384 02:05:38,870 --> 02:05:36,880 ranch in colorado that that's having 3385 02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:38,880 similar occurrences and 3386 02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:40,880 common theme among all these of course 3387 02:05:45,910 --> 02:05:42,400 are that they're in the southwest just 3388 02:05:47,830 --> 02:05:45,920 like the san san luis valley 3389 02:05:49,669 --> 02:05:47,840 they're in desolate areas where they're 3390 02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:49,679 the human populations 3391 02:05:54,070 --> 02:05:51,040 low 3392 02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:54,080 and i just a lot of these unusual rock 3393 02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:56,960 formations seems to seem to contribute i 3394 02:06:00,709 --> 02:05:58,960 i don't know what the relationship is i 3395 02:06:03,109 --> 02:06:00,719 don't pretend to know but uh 3396 02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:03,119 just looking for commonalities 3397 02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:05,840 i think there even is a magnetic anomaly 3398 02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:07,760 um in the uh 3399 02:06:12,870 --> 02:06:10,800 skinwalker region uh the uh 3400 02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:12,880 when viewed from space i looked at a few 3401 02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:14,960 maps and found i found the area was 3402 02:06:17,430 --> 02:06:16,560 unique in that regard in the basin 3403 02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:17,440 itself 3404 02:06:21,910 --> 02:06:19,599 uh one other interesting point is there 3405 02:06:24,310 --> 02:06:21,920 is a significantly higher amount of 3406 02:06:27,189 --> 02:06:24,320 silica in the soil 3407 02:06:29,030 --> 02:06:27,199 in the in the basin which of course is 3408 02:06:31,510 --> 02:06:29,040 conductive to electricity 3409 02:06:34,149 --> 02:06:31,520 so are there magnetic low 3410 02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:34,159 uh areas uh in other words of 3411 02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:35,920 if looking at a map 3412 02:06:40,069 --> 02:06:37,599 let's say an aeromagnetic map a 3413 02:06:42,069 --> 02:06:40,079 composite map over years of of the 3414 02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:42,079 earth's magnetic field there in the uh 3415 02:06:46,149 --> 02:06:44,800 basin is it a magnetic low in terms of 3416 02:06:47,030 --> 02:06:46,159 its uh 3417 02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:47,040 you know 3418 02:06:51,189 --> 02:06:48,639 signature in the earth's magnetic field 3419 02:06:53,510 --> 02:06:51,199 or is it a magnetic high 3420 02:06:55,270 --> 02:06:53,520 with with more field strength 3421 02:06:57,030 --> 02:06:55,280 maybe a magnetic low from what i 3422 02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:57,040 remember i have pictures on my right 3423 02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,560 that makes sense because the area was 3424 02:07:02,069 --> 02:07:00,400 under water for millions of years until 3425 02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:02,079 fairly recently 3426 02:07:06,550 --> 02:07:04,000 they think possibly that all the water 3427 02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:06,560 that used to be covering the uinta basin 3428 02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:13,589 when it drained to the ocean 3429 02:07:16,629 --> 02:07:15,119 it's interesting being out there you do 3430 02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:16,639 get the impression that you're at the 3431 02:07:20,790 --> 02:07:18,719 you know the bottom of some sort of vast 3432 02:07:22,310 --> 02:07:20,800 sea or what was i see at one point so i 3433 02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:22,320 guess and that does 3434 02:07:27,430 --> 02:07:24,000 that makes a lot of sense 3435 02:07:29,350 --> 02:07:27,440 well the the the absolute you know last 3436 02:07:31,270 --> 02:07:29,360 vestiges of all that 3437 02:07:32,709 --> 02:07:31,280 oh you know ocean water of course is 3438 02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:32,719 great salt lake which is slowly 3439 02:07:37,270 --> 02:07:34,320 condensing down 3440 02:07:39,030 --> 02:07:37,280 uh you know in and evaporating 3441 02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:39,040 creating like the bonneville salt flats 3442 02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:41,520 and salt flats all around the area there 3443 02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:44,239 from the residual salt that that is left 3444 02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:45,840 behind when the water and moisture 3445 02:07:50,629 --> 02:07:48,400 evaporates the unit basin is similar in 3446 02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,639 that regard to my knowledge limited 3447 02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:52,000 knowledge 3448 02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:54,239 in that it probably was covered with 3449 02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:57,360 water until fairly recently within 3450 02:08:02,149 --> 02:07:59,679 you know just a few million years 3451 02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:02,159 possibly um again i'm sure some of my 3452 02:08:06,709 --> 02:08:04,639 geologists uh listeners are going to get 3453 02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:06,719 on the forums and spank me soundly if 3454 02:08:10,550 --> 02:08:09,119 i'm wrong i think they'll enjoy that too 3455 02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:10,560 spanking you 3456 02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,079 well i know some some 3457 02:08:16,069 --> 02:08:14,480 some posters really like that so you 3458 02:08:18,390 --> 02:08:16,079 know i like to give them a little bit of 3459 02:08:20,149 --> 02:08:18,400 ammunition every now and then but ryan i 3460 02:08:23,030 --> 02:08:20,159 like your your thinking i think there 3461 02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:23,040 are many areas around the southwest that 3462 02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:24,159 deserve 3463 02:08:27,750 --> 02:08:26,320 uh intensive investigation there's some 3464 02:08:29,910 --> 02:08:27,760 very near me 3465 02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:29,920 that if i had a little bit more time and 3466 02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:32,960 some some help i would really like to 3467 02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:34,560 zero in on 3468 02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,440 some hardcore investigative work uh and 3469 02:08:42,069 --> 02:08:39,520 you know we're talking some real i think 3470 02:08:43,589 --> 02:08:42,079 quality areas um and i'm sure 3471 02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:43,599 at some point we should compare notes 3472 02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:45,199 because there's there's a few areas i'm 3473 02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:47,199 sure that you've been kind of zeroing in 3474 02:08:50,629 --> 02:08:48,480 on yourself 3475 02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:50,639 any particular general areas that 3476 02:08:54,550 --> 02:08:52,320 without giving away any specific 3477 02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:54,560 locations but any uh particular general 3478 02:08:59,030 --> 02:08:56,719 areas that are on your radar 3479 02:09:01,830 --> 02:08:59,040 good question i've come across a lot of 3480 02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:01,840 interesting stories about uh hidden gold 3481 02:09:05,109 --> 02:09:04,000 and treasure and whatnot in the northern 3482 02:09:06,390 --> 02:09:05,119 uenta 3483 02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:06,400 i don't know if you've ever heard about 3484 02:09:11,030 --> 02:09:09,520 a supposed aztec gold that's buried in 3485 02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:11,040 the mountains up there 3486 02:09:17,589 --> 02:09:14,079 yeah and also down by k uh kanab too uh 3487 02:09:19,189 --> 02:09:17,599 where there's supposedly a treasure in a 3488 02:09:20,629 --> 02:09:19,199 a small little um 3489 02:09:22,709 --> 02:09:20,639 kind of a 3490 02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:22,719 a miniature lake 3491 02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:24,880 that has underwater 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big name companies has a 3591 02:13:59,589 --> 02:13:57,040 weakness the phone line you shell out 3592 02:14:02,310 --> 02:13:59,599 1500 bucks get locked into a long-term 3593 02:14:04,149 --> 02:14:02,320 contract and think you're safe but a 3594 02:14:06,310 --> 02:14:04,159 burglar can destroy your alarm in 3595 02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:06,320 seconds with one snip and when a burglar 3596 02:14:10,870 --> 02:14:08,880 cuts your phone line you're defenseless 3597 02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:10,880 simply safe home security is the smarter 3598 02:14:15,189 --> 02:14:13,199 choice built by harvard engineers simply 3599 02:14:17,270 --> 02:14:15,199 safe uses a wireless connection to call 3600 02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:17,280 the cops scissors can't cut it and that 3601 02:14:21,750 --> 02:14:19,599 means your home stays safe 24 7 3602 02:14:23,910 --> 02:14:21,760 professional monitoring is under 15 a 3603 02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:23,920 month with no contract simply safe home 3604 02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:26,079 security keeps you safer than the other 3605 02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:28,400 guys for half the cost protect your home 3606 02:14:31,470 --> 02:14:30,560 with the alarm you can trust simply safe 3607 02:14:33,109 --> 02:14:31,480 go to 3608 02:14:34,790 --> 02:14:33,119 simplysafedefense.com now for an 3609 02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:34,800 exclusive 10 offer that's 3610 02:14:46,069 --> 02:14:43,669 this is leslie kane and i'm with the 3611 02:14:48,030 --> 02:14:46,079 coalition for freedom of information and 3612 02:14:50,149 --> 02:14:48,040 you are listening to the paracast 3613 02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:50,159 [Music] 3614 02:14:55,910 --> 02:14:52,480 so something constructive for people 3615 02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:55,920 over 10 feet tall three thrones i love 3616 02:15:01,589 --> 02:14:58,560 that three thrones there was a giant uh 3617 02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:01,599 a plate like like a like a disc in the 3618 02:15:05,830 --> 02:15:04,000 center and i'm supposedly on the disc 3619 02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:05,840 and then the walls are 3620 02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:09,040 believe i read egyptian hieroglyphics 3621 02:15:15,669 --> 02:15:12,000 or on the walls the plates uh 3622 02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:15,679 had aztec like figures carved into them 3623 02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:17,760 um the size of the thrones is what's 3624 02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:19,360 fascinating to me i mean the story 3625 02:15:23,910 --> 02:15:21,280 itself is fascinating if true but of 3626 02:15:27,270 --> 02:15:23,920 course it's just a rumor at this time 3627 02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:27,280 the uh supposedly the mormon church had 3628 02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:29,119 had learned about this place because uh 3629 02:15:33,750 --> 02:15:32,079 one of the the youths knew about it 3630 02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:33,760 and one of the 3631 02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:37,119 she was given a vision and was told to 3632 02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:39,040 let the mormon church uh 3633 02:15:44,390 --> 02:15:41,520 to reveal it to the mormon church and it 3634 02:15:45,669 --> 02:15:44,400 helped i believe it many years ago which 3635 02:15:48,069 --> 02:15:45,679 was having all sorts of financial 3636 02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:48,079 troubles when they were first started 3637 02:15:52,790 --> 02:15:51,040 suddenly uh after this discovery and 3638 02:15:54,950 --> 02:15:52,800 they had an emissary that was taken 3639 02:15:56,390 --> 02:15:54,960 there um they left with quite a bit of 3640 02:15:57,589 --> 02:15:56,400 gold that 3641 02:16:00,310 --> 02:15:57,599 fulfilled all their financial 3642 02:16:02,149 --> 02:16:00,320 obligations and plus them supposedly the 3643 02:16:04,229 --> 02:16:02,159 claim is there's enough gold and i don't 3644 02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:04,239 care about the gold actually but uh 3645 02:16:08,149 --> 02:16:05,920 enough in it to pave the streets you 3646 02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:08,159 know from here to new york with gold or 3647 02:16:11,669 --> 02:16:09,199 something 3648 02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:11,679 but it was it was these these three 3649 02:16:14,870 --> 02:16:12,880 thrones 3650 02:16:16,709 --> 02:16:14,880 that fascinates me and supposedly at the 3651 02:16:19,030 --> 02:16:16,719 entrance the place is supposedly guarded 3652 02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:19,040 by these shadow entities that uh like 3653 02:16:24,149 --> 02:16:21,920 whirlwind whirlwind entities that will 3654 02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:24,159 eviscerate you and drain the blood and 3655 02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:25,360 everything else out of you if you were 3656 02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:27,360 to approach it with the intentions of 3657 02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:29,520 right now is this in the uintas 3658 02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:31,360 or the wasatch 3659 02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:33,280 this is right on the very edge of the 3660 02:16:37,429 --> 02:16:35,599 uintas yeah right which would be the 3661 02:16:39,429 --> 02:16:37,439 southern end of the winters which are 3662 02:16:40,950 --> 02:16:39,439 the only mountain range in the united 3663 02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:40,960 north america that go 3664 02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:43,120 uh east and west 3665 02:16:46,629 --> 02:16:44,880 by the way 3666 02:16:48,950 --> 02:16:46,639 what's interesting about this too is for 3667 02:16:50,469 --> 02:16:48,960 those that may have read uh 3668 02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:50,479 george knapp's book 3669 02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:53,599 kelleher's book hunt for the skinwalker 3670 02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:56,000 um the supposed area and i've done a lot 3671 02:17:01,750 --> 02:16:58,719 of research into locating where this is 3672 02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:01,760 at the supposed area is right where 3673 02:17:05,669 --> 02:17:04,000 the natives had told junior hicks was 3674 02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:05,679 the layer of the skinwalker in a place 3675 02:17:09,509 --> 02:17:07,920 called dark canyon 3676 02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:09,519 right in dark canyon a little bit to the 3677 02:17:13,910 --> 02:17:11,840 north according to other books i've read 3678 02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,920 on the topic is where this uh this 3679 02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:16,000 supposed secret 3680 02:17:20,469 --> 02:17:18,160 uh cave is located 3681 02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:20,479 that has all these aztec treasures and 3682 02:17:24,070 --> 02:17:22,960 egyptian hieroglyphics and 3683 02:17:28,549 --> 02:17:24,080 to me 3684 02:17:30,870 --> 02:17:28,559 of what's behind all this 3685 02:17:33,669 --> 02:17:30,880 something summoned by the aztecs 3686 02:17:36,150 --> 02:17:33,679 you know many many years ago 3687 02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:36,160 or who knows 3688 02:17:39,190 --> 02:17:37,599 but that's that's what i'm looking into 3689 02:17:41,589 --> 02:17:39,200 and that's that's that's the latest 3690 02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:41,599 adventure where i plan to uh 3691 02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:43,120 spend my summer 3692 02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:45,040 well from scooby dude 3693 02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:51,589 hey anytime you're going to make an 3694 02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:54,000 expedition to find you know enough gold 3695 02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:55,760 to pave the streets in new york let me 3696 02:18:07,589 --> 02:17:57,840 know 3697 02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:07,599 yeah it does did uh i heard a rumor from 3698 02:18:11,429 --> 02:18:09,519 somebody did you ever try to find that 3699 02:18:14,309 --> 02:18:11,439 temple isis or the 3700 02:18:17,190 --> 02:18:14,319 supposed some sort of a cave in 3701 02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:17,200 the grand canyon 3702 02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:18,240 well yeah 3703 02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:20,479 actually i did 3704 02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:22,399 we 3705 02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:31,359 a remote controlled uh aerial platform 3706 02:18:36,709 --> 02:18:34,639 because of the high winds uh we had a 3707 02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:36,719 steady 40-50 mile an hour wind and it 3708 02:18:41,030 --> 02:18:39,120 was 98 degrees too i might add it's like 3709 02:18:42,150 --> 02:18:41,040 being in the world's largest uh blow 3710 02:18:43,030 --> 02:18:42,160 dryer 3711 02:18:46,870 --> 02:18:43,040 but 3712 02:18:49,349 --> 02:18:46,880 i i do have um a sense of 3713 02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:49,359 you know based on my research where 3714 02:18:54,070 --> 02:18:52,800 the kincaid entrance uh allegedly is 3715 02:18:56,629 --> 02:18:54,080 located 3716 02:18:59,190 --> 02:18:56,639 and um as a matter of fact just on 3717 02:19:01,990 --> 02:18:59,200 monday i flew over the area in a 3718 02:19:02,950 --> 02:19:02,000 helicopter on a on a maverick helicopter 3719 02:19:05,190 --> 02:19:02,960 tour 3720 02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:05,200 and uh and got some fairly good 3721 02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:08,479 photographs of that particular 3722 02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:10,240 probably quarter mile stretch of marble 3723 02:19:14,230 --> 02:19:12,719 canyon where that entrance uh is 3724 02:19:16,389 --> 02:19:14,240 allegedly located i haven't even 3725 02:19:17,910 --> 02:19:16,399 uploaded the uh shots onto my my 3726 02:19:19,990 --> 02:19:17,920 computer yet but 3727 02:19:20,870 --> 02:19:20,000 but i do know how to get out there uh 3728 02:19:24,150 --> 02:19:20,880 i've 3729 02:19:26,150 --> 02:19:24,160 you know the uh ill-fated uh terry wiles 3730 02:19:28,309 --> 02:19:26,160 expedition uh where people 3731 02:19:31,030 --> 02:19:28,319 probably should have died but didn't 3732 02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:31,040 uh it is a very difficult spot to get to 3733 02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:32,719 you probably have to get to it from the 3734 02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:34,479 river which makes makes it even more 3735 02:19:38,230 --> 02:19:36,399 problematic because you have to get 3736 02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:38,240 permission to go down the river 3737 02:19:42,629 --> 02:19:40,719 uh right which is very difficult to do 3738 02:19:46,070 --> 02:19:42,639 go down to colorado you know entering 3739 02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:46,080 just at the top of of grand canyon so 3740 02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:48,080 but i have done quite a bit of research 3741 02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:49,680 of course my publisher david hatcher 3742 02:19:52,630 --> 02:19:51,120 childress uh 3743 02:19:54,309 --> 02:19:52,640 has done um 3744 02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:54,319 quite a bit of research and i've 3745 02:19:58,389 --> 02:19:56,960 dovetailed my work on top of his 3746 02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:58,399 you know i'm not sure what to make of it 3747 02:20:03,030 --> 02:20:00,399 it could have been a you know a 3748 02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:03,040 a spoof story by the phoenix gazette to 3749 02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:05,280 garner more subscribers as you know 3750 02:20:09,670 --> 02:20:07,680 skeptics and debunkers would say but but 3751 02:20:10,630 --> 02:20:09,680 i do really feel that there is something 3752 02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:10,640 to 3753 02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:13,120 the legend that the hopi and zuni and 3754 02:20:16,630 --> 02:20:14,640 pueblo people have 3755 02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:16,640 of a large underground city that's 3756 02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:18,880 sitting there um waiting for them to 3757 02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:20,399 occupy when the earth is going to go 3758 02:20:24,150 --> 02:20:22,640 through earth changes i think 3759 02:20:26,550 --> 02:20:24,160 you know as you mentioned earlier in the 3760 02:20:27,670 --> 02:20:26,560 broadcast uh myths and stories do have a 3761 02:20:28,790 --> 02:20:27,680 basis 3762 02:20:31,030 --> 02:20:28,800 in fact 3763 02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:31,040 on some level and i i really have 3764 02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:32,960 confidence that there is some sort of 3765 02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:34,080 facility 3766 02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:36,479 uh located underneath there and it may 3767 02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:37,680 already be 3768 02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:41,520 uh totally you know explored and it may 3769 02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:44,240 be the basement for a new casino that's 3770 02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:46,720 being proposed right at the at the 3771 02:20:51,830 --> 02:20:49,600 confluence uh right in this same area uh 3772 02:20:53,030 --> 02:20:51,840 where i made my expedition in in 3773 02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:53,040 2012. 3774 02:20:56,389 --> 02:20:55,040 um they're going there's a proposed 2 3775 02:20:58,790 --> 02:20:56,399 billion dollar 3776 02:21:01,990 --> 02:20:58,800 project there for a casino a tramway to 3777 02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:02,000 go down to 4 000 feet down to the river 3778 02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:03,439 to the confluence 3779 02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:05,600 uh and the navajo are proposing a casino 3780 02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:08,080 there and if you drill straight down you 3781 02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:10,080 know a thousand feet you're going to 3782 02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:12,319 break into the underground uh city that 3783 02:21:16,469 --> 02:21:14,800 allegedly uh has been there for 3784 02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:16,479 tens possibly 3785 02:21:21,830 --> 02:21:19,760 ten or more thousand uh years so 3786 02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:21,840 in answer to your question yes i i'm 3787 02:21:27,110 --> 02:21:24,000 still this is you know i'm up at grand 3788 02:21:29,590 --> 02:21:27,120 canyon every week i look across the 3789 02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:29,600 expanse over to that area and i 3790 02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:31,040 i'm constantly 3791 02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:33,600 you know my wheels are spinning and uh 3792 02:21:38,790 --> 02:21:36,240 now with the the the drone technology 3793 02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:38,800 that we have i think it would be fairly 3794 02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:41,040 easy with a funded expedition to go out 3795 02:21:47,510 --> 02:21:45,280 there and and and at least properly map 3796 02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:47,520 that section of marble canyon between 3797 02:21:53,110 --> 02:21:50,800 quaggant rapids and the confluence which 3798 02:21:54,469 --> 02:21:53,120 is about a mile stretch but we've you 3799 02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:54,479 know i think we have it down to about a 3800 02:21:59,349 --> 02:21:56,880 quarter mile there's two sub-canyons 3801 02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:59,359 there that i think uh are the the most 3802 02:22:02,950 --> 02:22:00,960 likely place for 3803 02:22:05,110 --> 02:22:02,960 this uh this doorway 3804 02:22:07,349 --> 02:22:05,120 and of course the main doorway would be 3805 02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:07,359 the place of emergence the sapapu which 3806 02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:09,600 is up the little colorado about two 3807 02:22:13,990 --> 02:22:11,600 miles you can plainly see it from google 3808 02:22:16,790 --> 02:22:14,000 earth the entrance is filled with water 3809 02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:16,800 right now you know good question i i 3810 02:22:22,070 --> 02:22:18,640 really feel the southwest has an 3811 02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:22,080 antediluvian tunnel system that may tie 3812 02:22:28,070 --> 02:22:25,280 lava tubes together uh mount taylor the 3813 02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:28,080 caldera behind los alamos uh the san 3814 02:22:31,910 --> 02:22:29,680 francisco peaks 3815 02:22:33,830 --> 02:22:31,920 uh you know there's there's tons of lava 3816 02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:33,840 tubes in the southwest the winter 3817 02:22:38,950 --> 02:22:36,399 mountains and these may be 3818 02:22:40,309 --> 02:22:38,960 uh some of uh you know potentially some 3819 02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:40,319 of the places where we're gonna have 3820 02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:42,479 incredible archaeological finds you know 3821 02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:44,000 what sounds like to me and this gets to 3822 02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:46,080 be wacky it sounds like to me that there 3823 02:22:51,349 --> 02:22:49,200 is so much unexplored area around there 3824 02:22:53,510 --> 02:22:51,359 that some race of people could 3825 02:22:54,309 --> 02:22:53,520 set up an underground city 3826 02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:54,319 and 3827 02:22:57,990 --> 02:22:55,840 do their thing 3828 02:22:59,990 --> 02:22:58,000 and we'd never know it despite our 3829 02:23:02,070 --> 02:23:00,000 belief that we've explored most of the 3830 02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:02,080 earth the fact of the matter is that we 3831 02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:03,520 haven't 3832 02:23:08,550 --> 02:23:05,920 yeah but we have um we have dumpster and 3833 02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:08,560 we have the technology to map at least 3834 02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:15,990 and are we doing it 3835 02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:19,120 that's a very good question gene 3836 02:23:24,309 --> 02:23:21,280 well i like to raise questions that 3837 02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:24,319 can't be answered well we are doing it 3838 02:23:28,070 --> 02:23:26,479 to answer your question 3839 02:23:29,990 --> 02:23:28,080 allegedly the first place that was 3840 02:23:32,950 --> 02:23:30,000 mapped was the giza plateau the second 3841 02:23:36,630 --> 02:23:32,960 place was yucatan the peninsula 3842 02:23:40,150 --> 02:23:38,469 all right i'll grant that 3843 02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:40,160 by the way we have one more segment left 3844 02:23:43,270 --> 02:23:41,520 of the show 3845 02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:43,280 and maybe a few more questions from 3846 02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:45,280 listeners of ryan skinner who's written 3847 02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:47,840 two more books about skinwalker 3848 02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:49,520 and he's not going to quit till he gets 3849 02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:52,000 it right until he gets some answers he's 3850 02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:53,600 going to keep going there 3851 02:23:57,349 --> 02:23:55,520 or until they capture him 3852 02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:57,359 and take him to the secret underground 3853 02:23:59,670 --> 02:23:58,240 city 3854 02:24:02,030 --> 02:23:59,680 wherever that is 3855 02:24:04,070 --> 02:24:02,040 we want to take you to 3856 02:24:06,230 --> 02:24:04,080 plus.theparacast.com how about that and 3857 02:24:09,349 --> 02:24:06,240 learn more about the powercast plus our 3858 02:24:12,830 --> 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02:27:34,600 business or website advertise at 3944 02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:38,560 gcnlive.com easy affordable effective 3945 02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:41,359 hi coast to coast listeners i'm case 3946 02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:44,479 whirling from ksco radio in santa cruz 3947 02:27:50,230 --> 02:27:47,760 i'm 93 years old and i'm a big fan of 3948 02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:50,240 george nori because his topics and 3949 02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:52,880 guests are fascinating and really get 3950 02:27:58,630 --> 02:27:55,520 you thinking george is just as bothered 3951 02:28:01,270 --> 02:27:58,640 as i am by all the advertising you hear 3952 02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:01,280 for toxic prescription drugs that make 3953 02:28:07,270 --> 02:28:04,160 you sicker not healthy i prefer to give 3954 02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:07,280 my body all 90 essential nutrients it 3955 02:28:12,309 --> 02:28:10,160 needs for life to prevent disease not 3956 02:28:15,190 --> 02:28:12,319 compounded my favorite complete 3957 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skinwalker but 3972 02:29:01,590 --> 02:28:59,040 again as chris was alluding to we we may 3973 02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:01,600 have a and you yourself we may have a 3974 02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:03,840 hidden history that has been hidden from 3975 02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:04,560 us 3976 02:29:09,510 --> 02:29:06,240 that's that's yet to be discovered that 3977 02:29:11,429 --> 02:29:09,520 that's coexisting with us i'm just that 3978 02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:11,439 that mystery of it all fascinates me and 3979 02:29:15,349 --> 02:29:13,280 i want to be a i want to be a part of 3980 02:29:17,270 --> 02:29:15,359 the discovery of it chris do we have any 3981 02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:17,280 more questions from our listeners 3982 02:29:21,270 --> 02:29:20,479 we do um we've answered i think a lot of 3983 02:29:23,110 --> 02:29:21,280 them 3984 02:29:25,110 --> 02:29:23,120 a couple of questions have to do with 3985 02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:25,120 why don't we have any more photographic 3986 02:29:28,710 --> 02:29:26,960 more video evidence 3987 02:29:30,230 --> 02:29:28,720 i think we've covered that subject 3988 02:29:31,590 --> 02:29:30,240 fairly well 3989 02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:31,600 unfortunately 3990 02:29:35,670 --> 02:29:33,280 you know and i have i've been a victim 3991 02:29:39,429 --> 02:29:35,680 of this i i thought that i had captured 3992 02:29:41,190 --> 02:29:39,439 the first 3d camera footage of a shadow 3993 02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:41,200 person or a ghost 3994 02:29:46,309 --> 02:29:44,240 and the footage in a 22 thousand dollar 3995 02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:46,319 brand new panasonic 3d camera would not 3996 02:29:49,590 --> 02:29:48,000 initialize 3997 02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:49,600 uh we did everything we could to try to 3998 02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:51,520 pull that data out of the camera it was 3999 02:29:56,870 --> 02:29:53,520 was unsuccessful 4000 02:29:59,349 --> 02:29:56,880 um i've had camera batteries drain 4001 02:30:02,469 --> 02:29:59,359 uh over the bradshaw ranch every battery 4002 02:30:04,469 --> 02:30:02,479 aboard the helicopter drained 4003 02:30:06,710 --> 02:30:04,479 the history channel was unable to film 4004 02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:06,720 any footage flying over the bradshaw 4005 02:30:11,110 --> 02:30:07,840 ranch 4006 02:30:13,510 --> 02:30:11,120 i could go down the list of examples of 4007 02:30:15,590 --> 02:30:13,520 this type of phenomenon occurring where 4008 02:30:18,230 --> 02:30:15,600 documentation visual and audio 4009 02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:18,240 documentation has been rendered null and 4010 02:30:23,110 --> 02:30:22,160 void so we've covered those uh angel of 4011 02:30:26,230 --> 02:30:23,120 lauren 4012 02:30:28,230 --> 02:30:26,240 angelo one of our friendly skeptics we 4013 02:30:30,550 --> 02:30:28,240 kind of answered that one uh here's 4014 02:30:33,750 --> 02:30:30,560 here's one from last laugh who has been 4015 02:30:36,469 --> 02:30:33,760 a poster since may 2015. 4016 02:30:38,469 --> 02:30:36,479 uh he's posted 43 messages on our forums 4017 02:30:40,309 --> 02:30:38,479 at forum.paracast.com 4018 02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:40,319 and he wants to know if there have been 4019 02:30:45,670 --> 02:30:42,960 any further sightings of the rooftop dog 4020 02:30:47,429 --> 02:30:45,680 man now we did mention this before but 4021 02:30:48,950 --> 02:30:47,439 have you heard of any other uh 4022 02:30:51,590 --> 02:30:48,960 occurrences of 4023 02:30:54,950 --> 02:30:51,600 this dog man or hammerhead shark man as 4024 02:30:56,550 --> 02:30:54,960 you as you described 4025 02:30:58,630 --> 02:30:56,560 none in fort de shane i have no new 4026 02:30:59,429 --> 02:30:58,640 stories coming out of fort duchesne or 4027 02:31:02,070 --> 02:30:59,439 the 4028 02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:02,080 ranch region however i have several 4029 02:31:06,469 --> 02:31:04,160 stories in uh in my book tales of the 4030 02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:06,479 skin walk about a skinwalker hopping 4031 02:31:10,870 --> 02:31:09,040 from rooftop to rooftop or at least 4032 02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:10,880 the the person who's being 4033 02:31:15,030 --> 02:31:13,359 accosted by the skin walker yeah they 4034 02:31:16,870 --> 02:31:15,040 for whatever reason they 4035 02:31:18,790 --> 02:31:16,880 they seem to not only tap on the window 4036 02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:18,800 but they they can hop right on the roof 4037 02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,800 and seem to spend some time up there 4038 02:31:23,349 --> 02:31:22,399 yeah how about 4039 02:31:25,990 --> 02:31:23,359 any 4040 02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:26,000 contact with the insiders at the ranch 4041 02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:28,399 or with bass or or anybody closely 4042 02:31:33,429 --> 02:31:30,479 associated with the organization 4043 02:31:35,349 --> 02:31:33,439 uh i i know this is kind of a touchy 4044 02:31:37,110 --> 02:31:35,359 uh subject but uh 4045 02:31:38,630 --> 02:31:37,120 do we still have any close insider 4046 02:31:40,550 --> 02:31:38,640 contacts uh 4047 02:31:43,030 --> 02:31:40,560 at work and play 4048 02:31:44,550 --> 02:31:43,040 i i do and those contacts i don't 4049 02:31:46,950 --> 02:31:44,560 discuss at all and i 4050 02:31:48,550 --> 02:31:46,960 yeah i'm still fostering some 4051 02:31:50,550 --> 02:31:48,560 some active 4052 02:31:52,309 --> 02:31:50,560 relationships inside there 4053 02:31:53,910 --> 02:31:52,319 the information lately hasn't been that 4054 02:31:56,710 --> 02:31:53,920 fruitful i mean just just not a lot of 4055 02:31:58,070 --> 02:31:56,720 new information has come out yet 4056 02:32:01,590 --> 02:31:58,080 okay 4057 02:32:03,670 --> 02:32:01,600 well we've talked about uh some of the 4058 02:32:05,750 --> 02:32:03,680 alleged you know the rumors of alleged 4059 02:32:07,910 --> 02:32:05,760 activity of a battle on the rancher or 4060 02:32:09,190 --> 02:32:07,920 some sort of altercation 4061 02:32:10,950 --> 02:32:09,200 and 4062 02:32:12,950 --> 02:32:10,960 cosmonaut again that was his his 4063 02:32:15,830 --> 02:32:12,960 question but he also wants to know 4064 02:32:17,349 --> 02:32:15,840 if you are aware of any information that 4065 02:32:19,510 --> 02:32:17,359 bigelow or as people 4066 02:32:22,389 --> 02:32:19,520 have communicated or received 4067 02:32:24,389 --> 02:32:22,399 communications from the entities and if 4068 02:32:26,710 --> 02:32:24,399 so what was what was communicated do you 4069 02:32:28,309 --> 02:32:26,720 know of any experiments uh 4070 02:32:30,790 --> 02:32:28,319 with attempts at actual direct 4071 02:32:33,349 --> 02:32:30,800 communication 4072 02:32:35,590 --> 02:32:33,359 well i just know the case of eric 4073 02:32:39,030 --> 02:32:35,600 was one of the knits investigators at 4074 02:32:41,429 --> 02:32:39,040 the time had a direct contact with 4075 02:32:43,270 --> 02:32:41,439 supposedly several of the entities i 4076 02:32:46,389 --> 02:32:43,280 believe told him to 4077 02:32:48,710 --> 02:32:46,399 to back off or to leave the 4078 02:32:50,389 --> 02:32:48,720 he claims that they they took 4079 02:32:52,950 --> 02:32:50,399 a form of possession actually they took 4080 02:32:54,550 --> 02:32:52,960 over his mind and communicated that 4081 02:32:56,389 --> 02:32:54,560 message 4082 02:32:58,309 --> 02:32:56,399 and again a lot of this behavior i know 4083 02:33:00,309 --> 02:32:58,319 again i know it sounds kind of 4084 02:33:01,510 --> 02:33:00,319 slow to conclude it 4085 02:33:02,469 --> 02:33:01,520 it might sound 4086 02:33:05,110 --> 02:33:02,479 better to say this is all 4087 02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:05,120 interdimensional or aliens but 4088 02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:07,840 the more one research is the islamic gin 4089 02:33:11,990 --> 02:33:08,800 the more 4090 02:33:15,190 --> 02:33:12,000 with the currencies that are occurring 4091 02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:15,200 in the ranch and and the gem the gen or 4092 02:33:17,510 --> 02:33:16,240 genies 4093 02:33:19,349 --> 02:33:17,520 are uh 4094 02:33:21,030 --> 02:33:19,359 the closest thing we have to them is 4095 02:33:23,429 --> 02:33:21,040 almost like a 4096 02:33:25,510 --> 02:33:23,439 demons or demonic possession 4097 02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:25,520 here in america 4098 02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:27,760 but uh but these entities 4099 02:33:31,670 --> 02:33:30,080 supposedly can take over your mind um 4100 02:33:34,469 --> 02:33:31,680 they can communicate directly through 4101 02:33:36,230 --> 02:33:34,479 you they do and appear in a in a 4102 02:33:39,670 --> 02:33:36,240 shadow form 4103 02:33:42,309 --> 02:33:39,680 um they were called uh i guess 4104 02:33:44,550 --> 02:33:42,319 called the uh they were created by god 4105 02:33:47,429 --> 02:33:44,560 before humans were and they were called 4106 02:33:49,990 --> 02:33:47,439 the smokeless fire which is also known 4107 02:33:52,150 --> 02:33:50,000 as plasma which is yeah the angels were 4108 02:33:54,389 --> 02:33:52,160 created out of light we were created out 4109 02:33:57,110 --> 02:33:54,399 of clay the gin were 4110 02:34:00,150 --> 02:33:57,120 um created out of fire right and they 4111 02:34:01,670 --> 02:34:00,160 they inhabit these desolate uh 4112 02:34:03,750 --> 02:34:01,680 and and their location where they 4113 02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:03,760 inhabit is uh 4114 02:34:07,349 --> 02:34:05,920 they inhabit these desert locations 4115 02:34:10,710 --> 02:34:07,359 throughout the world 4116 02:34:13,110 --> 02:34:10,720 and skinwalker ranch and bradshaw ranch 4117 02:34:15,110 --> 02:34:13,120 and various places in arizona nevada the 4118 02:34:17,429 --> 02:34:15,120 four corners of course 4119 02:34:20,389 --> 02:34:17,439 is as close as we come to uh 4120 02:34:22,070 --> 02:34:20,399 these isolated and desolate uh desert 4121 02:34:25,349 --> 02:34:22,080 locations which which again these are 4122 02:34:28,389 --> 02:34:25,359 locations with water 4123 02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:28,399 yeah they all would true 4124 02:34:31,910 --> 02:34:30,160 you got a pair of interesting books 4125 02:34:33,670 --> 02:34:31,920 there ryan skinner take a couple of 4126 02:34:38,230 --> 02:34:33,680 minutes to tell our listeners more about 4127 02:34:42,630 --> 02:34:40,550 well i have uh tales of tales of the 4128 02:34:45,030 --> 02:34:42,640 skinwalker again chronicles several 4129 02:34:46,389 --> 02:34:45,040 store well countless stories of people 4130 02:34:49,110 --> 02:34:46,399 having close encounters with a 4131 02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:49,120 skinwalker 4132 02:34:52,070 --> 02:34:50,240 and uh 4133 02:34:54,950 --> 02:34:52,080 the various events that 4134 02:34:59,429 --> 02:34:54,960 occurred both during afterwards and and 4135 02:35:01,590 --> 02:34:59,439 how they interpreted their experience uh 4136 02:35:04,070 --> 02:35:01,600 what's interesting about that is i just 4137 02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:04,080 had uh the audio version of it created 4138 02:35:08,389 --> 02:35:06,880 it'll be on audible.com so for those of 4139 02:35:09,830 --> 02:35:08,399 you who 4140 02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:09,840 don't necessarily want to pick up a book 4141 02:35:12,790 --> 02:35:10,960 and read it 4142 02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:12,800 you have several ways of listening you 4143 02:35:17,750 --> 02:35:15,040 can listen to the audio book you can buy 4144 02:35:20,389 --> 02:35:17,760 the the paperback or or 4145 02:35:22,070 --> 02:35:20,399 download a digital copy of it 4146 02:35:23,349 --> 02:35:22,080 but again it's just uh 4147 02:35:24,630 --> 02:35:23,359 countless stories i've collected over 4148 02:35:26,150 --> 02:35:24,640 the years of close encounters with 4149 02:35:27,190 --> 02:35:26,160 skinwalkers and i'm not aware of any 4150 02:35:29,110 --> 02:35:27,200 other 4151 02:35:31,270 --> 02:35:29,120 book right now with with similar stories 4152 02:35:32,710 --> 02:35:31,280 it's just 4153 02:35:34,389 --> 02:35:32,720 it's something you probably want to read 4154 02:35:36,550 --> 02:35:34,399 during the day because it'll might keep 4155 02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:36,560 you up at night some of the spooky ones 4156 02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:38,960 have come across in there um 4157 02:35:43,990 --> 02:35:41,520 skinwalker ranch the ufo farm 4158 02:35:46,870 --> 02:35:44,000 is a summary of 4159 02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:46,880 uh personal events what what led me to 4160 02:35:50,550 --> 02:35:48,880 the journey that i'm currently on 4161 02:35:52,710 --> 02:35:50,560 uh what started and kicked off this 4162 02:35:54,230 --> 02:35:52,720 whole thing it uh summarizes my first 4163 02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:54,240 book 4164 02:36:02,150 --> 02:36:00,960 uh no trespassing where i write detail 4165 02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:02,160 the 4166 02:36:11,190 --> 02:36:05,920 uh 4167 02:36:12,950 --> 02:36:11,200 regarding skinwalker ranch and all the 4168 02:36:14,309 --> 02:36:12,960 things that had occurred uh from nids 4169 02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:14,319 since mid said 4170 02:36:19,030 --> 02:36:16,800 closed down and become 4171 02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:19,040 revamped into bass 4172 02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:20,319 it also 4173 02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:23,920 insider 4174 02:36:27,750 --> 02:36:26,080 information that was that was verbally 4175 02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:27,760 given to me 4176 02:36:31,910 --> 02:36:29,840 and all the photos and videos and 4177 02:36:33,510 --> 02:36:31,920 drawings and everything else of close 4178 02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:33,520 encounters people have had on the ranch 4179 02:36:38,230 --> 02:36:36,640 and the various locations 4180 02:36:40,870 --> 02:36:38,240 of places on the ranch and around the 4181 02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:40,880 ranch and descriptions of them once 4182 02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:42,720 again ryan where do you get copies of 4183 02:36:48,710 --> 02:36:43,840 the books 4184 02:36:52,230 --> 02:36:48,720 you can go to amazon.com or audible.com 4185 02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:52,240 that works we've got a copy of chris 4186 02:36:56,950 --> 02:36:55,120 o'brien's stalking the tricksters 4187 02:37:00,790 --> 02:36:56,960 to give away free 4188 02:37:02,790 --> 02:37:00,800 and that forms also a lot of relation to 4189 02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:02,800 this other subject here about what's 4190 02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:04,880 happening at skinwalker ranch 4191 02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:07,120 are tricksters involved is that the 4192 02:37:11,110 --> 02:37:09,359 trickster phenomenon at work 4193 02:37:12,309 --> 02:37:11,120 what about it how do you get a copy very 4194 02:37:16,830 --> 02:37:12,319 simple 4195 02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:17,910 plus.thepowercast.complus.theparacast.com 4196 02:37:22,630 --> 02:37:21,120 and sign up for the powercast plus and 4197 02:37:23,910 --> 02:37:22,640 here's what you get for the powercast 4198 02:37:26,950 --> 02:37:23,920 plus 4199 02:37:29,670 --> 02:37:26,960 you get the ad free version of the show 4200 02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:29,680 you also get after the powercast our 4201 02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:31,680 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can also tell you can 4217 02:38:10,429 --> 02:38:09,600 find chris o'brien's site 4218 02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:10,439 our 4219 02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:12,720 strangeplanet.com with a lot of amazing 4220 02:38:17,349 --> 02:38:15,600 stuff our strangeplant.com 4221 02:38:20,389 --> 02:38:17,359 and check out information there about 4222 02:38:21,590 --> 02:38:20,399 the san luis valley camera project if 4223 02:38:24,309 --> 02:38:21,600 you want to get involved you want to 4224 02:38:26,790 --> 02:38:24,319 donate some money equipment whatever 4225 02:38:29,110 --> 02:38:26,800 he's happy to hear from you ryan skinner 4226 02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:29,120 you're always fun to bring on the show 4227 02:38:33,270 --> 02:38:30,960 glad you wrote these two new books with 4228 02:38:35,349 --> 02:38:33,280 fascinating information thank you for 4229 02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:35,359 joining us on the power cast 4230 02:38:38,870 --> 02:38:37,120 you know thank you for having me again 4231 02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:38,880 it's always a pleasure to be on the show 4232 02:38:42,950 --> 02:38:40,880 and i look forward to uh doing some 4233 02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:42,960 follow-up on the forum as well on your 4234 02:38:55,190 --> 02:38:45,120 forum and answer any questions anybody 4235 02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:58,070 the powercast featuring gene steinberg 4236 02:39:03,910 --> 02:39:00,960 and christopher o'brien is a copyrighted 4237 02:39:05,670 --> 02:39:03,920 presentation of making the impossible 4238 02:39:09,750 --> 02:39:05,680 incorporated